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Trump fact check: Almost every big claim he made to Congress was false

Donald Trump fact check: Almost every big claim he made in his Joint Address to Congress was false

Much of the speech was focused on rhetoric and policy commitments, but it included a huge range of false claims

TRUMP: "According to the National Academy of Sciences, our current immigration system costs America's taxpayers many billions of dollars a year."

THE FACTS: That's not exactly what that report says. It says immigrants "contribute to government finances by paying taxes and add expenditures by consuming public services."

TRUMP: "We've saved taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars by bringing down the price" of the F-35 jet fighter.

THE FACTS: The cost savings he persists in bragging about were secured in full or large part before he became president.

TRUMP: "We will provide massive tax relief for the middle class."

THE FACTS: Trump has provided little detail on how this would happen. Independent analyses of his campaign's tax proposals found that most of the benefits would flow to the wealthiest families.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-speech-fact-check-lies-claims-joint-address-congress-jobs-immigration-pipeline-a7604861.html
Posted by Trumpocalypse | Wed Mar 1, 2017, 07:54 AM (8 replies)

I have to disagree with Fran Lebowitz

Just watched this week's Real Time and really have to disagree with something said by Fran Lebowitz. She said that it's OK to give idiots a platform because it exposes their idiocy. She is wrong. It shows that she lives in a bubble and only knows other people who think like her. But everyone doesn't think like her. I do as many here on DU do. But many don't.

After she said it I'm glad Seth MacFarlane said 'that hasn't been working'.

In reality, by giving idiots, bullies, hate-mongers, etc. a platform you are only emboldening other idiots, bullies and hate-mongers. It legitimizes them. I think we all saw this over the last two years with Trump's campaign. Back in the 70s, Norman Lear was surprised to learn that many conservatives loved All in the Family. Why? Because they thought that Archie made a lot of sense. They didn't see the show as Lear wrote it, a satire on the stupidity of bigots and the right. But rather as a validation of the those views that they held. Archie their hero who slapped down the views of his liberal son in law week after week.

I believe in the 1st Amendment and don't believe in censorship. But these is no right to be on TV. And those that spew the most vile and disgusting views have no right to that platform.
Posted by Trumpocalypse | Sun Feb 26, 2017, 11:21 AM (41 replies)

George Takei vs. Bill Maher

https://twitter.com/GeorgeTakei/status/833164089174196224

So many here have been defending the bigot Maher. I'll stand with George!
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