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The defense of Trump is that he's the world's biggest victim

When you boil it all down just about every defense of Trump starts with the premise that he is a total victim of some mean person or organization. Everyone's out to get him. If it isn't "the deep state" it's the "never Trumpers". Or, it's the media and George Soros. Or, it's some woman "lying" to get money by accusing him of sexual impropriety. Or, it could be a whistle blower just lying to lie. According to his supporters, Trump deserves none of this because it has nothing to do with his behavior at all, it's just all made up out of hate for Trump, and nothing more. Most recently it's career diplomats that have suddenly jumped on the hate Trump band wagon, deciding to set aside lifetimes of decency and high ethical values just to start lying about him under oath in an impeachment inquiry. Poor Trump

Nunes needs to be called out on his lie that Schiff tried to get nude Photos of (yeach) Trump

If I remember correctly Schiff saw through the fake call, and didn't fall for anything.

Question- has Trump ever stated why exactly Yovanovitch was "bad news"?

I would think it to be an obvious question as to why he wanted her out. Has anyone ever answered this? Or, are Trump and the republicans just going to hide behind the whole "she serves at the pleasure of the president so he doesn't need to give a reason" line of not getting to any real answer?

Trump wanted to use Zelinski to hurt Biden in a court of public opinion

One of the main takeaways from Taylor's testimony yesterday is that Trump was more interested in hurting Biden than in investigating any corruption. If it was just about corruption, a private investigation would have been fine. In fact, a quiet investigation would have probably been easier and more effective to conduct. But no, Trump wanted it public. That way even if the investigation went nowhere and found no corruption, the damage would still have been done. This is very similar to the way an announced investigation into Hillary's emails less than 2 weeks before the election gave Trump an advantage over Clinton.

I'm sick and tired of two specific lies being told by the Trump supporters

1) That Trump's transcript of his call with Zelinski proves no quid pro quo,

and,

2) The Mueller report exonerated Trump.

Neither of these are the truth, yet the right never misses a chance to parrot these falsehoods.

Since November is the month back in 1991 the Berlin wall started being torn down

A little Elton John

Here's a pdf of Individual number 1 talking with President Zelenskyy of Ukraine

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Unclassified09.2019.pdf

Directly from the transcript
Trump says:
"the United States has been very very good to Ukraine. I wouldn't say that it's reciprocal necessarily because things are happening that are not good but the United States has been very very good to Ukraine."

Shortly after Zelenshyy says:
"I would also like to thank you for your great support in the area of defense. We are ready to continue to cooperate for the next steps specifically we are almost ready to buy more Javelins from the United States for defense purposes."

Then Trump immediately responds:
"I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say Crowdstrike ... I guess you have one of your wealthy people... The server, they say Ukraine has it. There- are a lot of things that went on, the whole situation .. I think you are surrounding yourself with some of the same people. I would like to have the Attorney General call you or your people and I would like you to get to the bottom of it. As you say yesterday, that whole nonsetise ended with a very poor performance by a man named Robert Mueler, an incompetent performance, but they say a lot of it started with Ukraine. Whatever you can do, it's very important that you do it
if that's possible."

After talking about having William Barr visit, Trump says:
"The other thing, there's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great."

Check it out!



It really pisses me off when repukes keep saying the Mueller Report found no collusion

Mueller didn't charge Trump with collusion, but his report found plenty of evidence of collusion, and also stressed that Trump benefited from Russian interference.

Just watched Doug Collins(asshole extraordinaire) say absolutely nothing

He complained about having the hearing and never said exactly why. How did our system get so broken?

I've been away from the news for awhile. What's this Trump Sharpie stuff all about?

I understand he embellished a weather map and showed it to the press. But why? What did it do for him? What was his sorry ass trying to prove by doing such a thing? That's the part I missed.
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