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June 13, 2018
THREAD: What does the potential cooperation of Michael Cohen mean for the Mueller investigation?
Good Read, informative Thread rolled into one page.
2/ It’s not surprising that Cohen is moving towards cooperation, if the @abcnews reports are correct. When the FBI executes a search warrant at your home and office, you’re in trouble. The judge in the Stormy Daniels case concluded Cohen is likely to be charged, and he’s right.
3/ Although Cohen is cooperating with federal prosecutors in Manhattan (not Mueller’s team), cooperation deals typically require the cooperator to provide all information about any criminal activity he knows about. Prosecutors then share that info with other jurisdictions.
4/ Assuming that Cohen has information that will be useful to law enforcement—information that will lead to charges against others—he will get a deal. But one unusual complication is that Cohen is an attorney and some information he has may be about former clients.
5/ There are ample examples of attorneys who are prosecuted—I tried and convicted one—but when they cooperate, everyone involved needs to make sure attorney-client privilege is respected.
6/ Most conversations involving criminal activity likely won’t be privileged because they don’t involve legal advice. Only conversations about legal advice are privileged. A conversation about legal advice isn’t privileged if the advice is used to further the crime.
7/ That last sentence is called the “crime/fraud” exception to attorney-client privilege. It’s more limited than some commentators suggest, but combined with the fact that most criminal conversations aren’t about legal advice, likely few of Cohen’s conversations were privileged.
8/ It’s also worth noting that federal prosecutors allege that Cohen didn’t practice law much, and thus far the documents they seized are consistent with that allegation. The retired judge reviewing the Cohen documents found that less than 1/10th of one percent were privileged.
9/ So if Cohen cooperates, he will have to tell almost all of what he knows about criminal activity to federal prosecutors, who can share that info with Mueller, other federal prosecutors, and state prosecutors.
10/ Trump could derail all of this with a pardon of Cohen. His recent talk of pardons appears to be an attempt to reduce the political damage of giving pardons. If Trump pardoned Cohen for federal crimes, state prosecutors would have to use the evidence gathered by the FBI.
11/ That could result in a cooperation deal for state, not federal authorities. By moving towards cooperation now, Cohen is signaling that he doesn’t believe he will receive a pardon—or he’s trying to get one sooner rather than later.
12/ Regardless of how it plays out, Cohen’s cooperation is a blow to the Trump team and could strengthen the case Mueller is building. How much it helps Mueller depends on what Cohen knows and how forthcoming he is. /end
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Link to the Original Twitter discussion on this topic:
https://mobile.twitter.com/renato_mariotti/status/1006909313347137536
What does the potential cooperation of Michael Cohen mean for the Mueller investigation?
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1006909313347137536.htmlTHREAD: What does the potential cooperation of Michael Cohen mean for the Mueller investigation?
Good Read, informative Thread rolled into one page.
2/ It’s not surprising that Cohen is moving towards cooperation, if the @abcnews reports are correct. When the FBI executes a search warrant at your home and office, you’re in trouble. The judge in the Stormy Daniels case concluded Cohen is likely to be charged, and he’s right.
3/ Although Cohen is cooperating with federal prosecutors in Manhattan (not Mueller’s team), cooperation deals typically require the cooperator to provide all information about any criminal activity he knows about. Prosecutors then share that info with other jurisdictions.
4/ Assuming that Cohen has information that will be useful to law enforcement—information that will lead to charges against others—he will get a deal. But one unusual complication is that Cohen is an attorney and some information he has may be about former clients.
5/ There are ample examples of attorneys who are prosecuted—I tried and convicted one—but when they cooperate, everyone involved needs to make sure attorney-client privilege is respected.
6/ Most conversations involving criminal activity likely won’t be privileged because they don’t involve legal advice. Only conversations about legal advice are privileged. A conversation about legal advice isn’t privileged if the advice is used to further the crime.
7/ That last sentence is called the “crime/fraud” exception to attorney-client privilege. It’s more limited than some commentators suggest, but combined with the fact that most criminal conversations aren’t about legal advice, likely few of Cohen’s conversations were privileged.
8/ It’s also worth noting that federal prosecutors allege that Cohen didn’t practice law much, and thus far the documents they seized are consistent with that allegation. The retired judge reviewing the Cohen documents found that less than 1/10th of one percent were privileged.
9/ So if Cohen cooperates, he will have to tell almost all of what he knows about criminal activity to federal prosecutors, who can share that info with Mueller, other federal prosecutors, and state prosecutors.
10/ Trump could derail all of this with a pardon of Cohen. His recent talk of pardons appears to be an attempt to reduce the political damage of giving pardons. If Trump pardoned Cohen for federal crimes, state prosecutors would have to use the evidence gathered by the FBI.
11/ That could result in a cooperation deal for state, not federal authorities. By moving towards cooperation now, Cohen is signaling that he doesn’t believe he will receive a pardon—or he’s trying to get one sooner rather than later.
12/ Regardless of how it plays out, Cohen’s cooperation is a blow to the Trump team and could strengthen the case Mueller is building. How much it helps Mueller depends on what Cohen knows and how forthcoming he is. /end
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Link to the Original Twitter discussion on this topic:
https://mobile.twitter.com/renato_mariotti/status/1006909313347137536
June 13, 2018
Is it a stall? Cohen's lawyers abandon him...
Friday was set as the deadline:
"If the review of all the documents is due by fri is this a ploy to get the judge to extend the deadline? Has the firm filed with the court to withdraw as the defense attorney?"
They're snakes. Would this move by the attorneys prevent the case from going forward until Cohen gets new attorneys?
June 13, 2018
MORE: Former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen likely to cooperate as his attorneys leave case, sources tell @ABC
Twitter link:
https://mobile.twitter.com/ABC/status/1006906114259156992
https://twitter.com/dannyk06660/status/1006906680548954112
ABCNEWS: Cohen likely to cooperate with federal prosecutors in New York as his attorneys leave case
https://twitter.com/immelza/status/1006908275458236416MORE: Former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen likely to cooperate as his attorneys leave case, sources tell @ABC
Twitter link:
https://mobile.twitter.com/ABC/status/1006906114259156992
https://twitter.com/dannyk06660/status/1006906680548954112
June 13, 2018
Megyn Kelly could get bumped to the 4th hour of 'Today'
Megyn Kelly could get bumped to the 4th hour of ‘Today’
June 12, 2018
Megyn Kelly may get to sleep in an extra hour. According to inside sources, NBC is considering swapping “Megyn Kelly Today” with the time slot currently occupied by Kathie Lee and Hoda. Kelly’s sluggish ratings reportedly are hurting the fourth hour of the “Today” show.
NBC is starting to think about reshuffling its morning lineup to limit the damage done by struggling “Megyn Kelly Today.”
Sources tell Page Six that network execs are considering moving Megyn Kelly’s show — which has been having a hard time attracting viewers since it debuted in September — an hour later, and bringing Kathie Lee Gifford and Hoda Kotb’s popular hour of the “Today” show forward by an hour to replace it.
As Page Six reported in October 2017, Gifford and Kotb’s ratings “took a huge hit” after Kelly replaced Tamron Hall and Al Roker’s “Today’s Take” at 9 a.m.
At the time, Kelly was down 32 percent compared to the time slot’s viewership in the previous year.
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It’s the smart move,” said an insider of moving Kelly. “At the very least that limits the damage already done to Hoda and Kathie Lee — maybe with a strong lead-in from ‘Today’ at 9 a.m., they’ll even pick up some of the viewers they lost since Megyn went on the air.”
https://pagesix.com/2018/06/11/nbc-mulls-moving-megyn-kelly-today-to-a-new-time-slot/
June 13, 2018
https://twitter.com/kurteichenwald/status/1006705646706798593
Thread Link
https://mobile.twitter.com/kurteichenwald/status/1006704425690419200
👹 Trump knifed an ally to aid an enemy on the advice of Russia.
https://twitter.com/kurteichenwald/status/1006704425690419200https://twitter.com/kurteichenwald/status/1006705646706798593
Thread Link
https://mobile.twitter.com/kurteichenwald/status/1006704425690419200
June 12, 2018
We need to find out who is pocketing the big cash profits from this Govt Contract.
How wealthy have they become?
There's a lot more about this private company that's being hidden.
It appears they have always been in the business of exploiting the most vulnerable for profit.
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SNIP
BY: ADI NEWS SERVICES
DECEMBER 14, 2015
Big business
One whistleblower reported last week that the minors in the care of Southwest Key are allowed to call home once a week.
During those calls to Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras, the minor children often encourage siblings and other family members to arrive at the U.S. Mexico border and specifically request placement in a Southwest Key facility.
Federal policy dictates that minors are not turned away and are quickly processed to a limited extent and then delivered to the shelters across the southwest.
No one knows how many children have died after being lured into travelling north.
However, the “number of children who are caught trying to slip across the U.S.-Mexico border alone and illegally has quietly surged again more than a year after President Obama referred to the problem as an “urgent humanitarian situation,” according to a December 12, 2015 article by Elizabeth Chuck for NBC News.
“More than 10,000 undocumented children have been stopped in just the last two months, according to U.S. Border and Customs Protection,” reports Chuck.
Southwest Key sources report that the shelters are at capacity ensuring that El Presidente’s coffers will remain full.
While Southwest Key has found the pipeline to attract minors, employees are another matter. Without exception, all of the many whistleblowers with whom we met describe their initial excitement with the prospect of helping children who had fled from oppressive poverty, and the feelings of betrayal that led them to flee the oppressive Southwest Key.
One whistleblower explained how they came to understand the organization’s bottom line. “They brain wash us,” said the former employee with a Master’s Degree in Social Work.
They believe that Southwest Key management engages in a systematic beating down of an employee’s self-esteem so that eventually they become more manageable and resistant to questionable practices.
From forcing professional staff to clean toilets, to altering their case notes, staff confidence is slowly eroded. That lack of confidence leads to fear, and fear leads to silence.
“Maintenance people were involved in the same training,” they said. The whistleblower described learning how the program came about, and learned about the mission.
“Like wow, they really dotted their I’s and crossed their T’s,” they said. “Whole different story once it started. Whole different story.
The training started and no one got the training that they needed. … it was devastating. I hope I don’t have PTSD because I saw so much that I couldn’t take it anymore.”
MORE...
Yikes! 2015 - Southwest Key Staff Describe Unusual Tactics
https://arizonadailyindependent.com/2015/12/14/southwest-key-workers/We need to find out who is pocketing the big cash profits from this Govt Contract.
How wealthy have they become?
There's a lot more about this private company that's being hidden.
It appears they have always been in the business of exploiting the most vulnerable for profit.
-----------------------------
SNIP
BY: ADI NEWS SERVICES
DECEMBER 14, 2015
Big business
One whistleblower reported last week that the minors in the care of Southwest Key are allowed to call home once a week.
During those calls to Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras, the minor children often encourage siblings and other family members to arrive at the U.S. Mexico border and specifically request placement in a Southwest Key facility.
Federal policy dictates that minors are not turned away and are quickly processed to a limited extent and then delivered to the shelters across the southwest.
No one knows how many children have died after being lured into travelling north.
However, the “number of children who are caught trying to slip across the U.S.-Mexico border alone and illegally has quietly surged again more than a year after President Obama referred to the problem as an “urgent humanitarian situation,” according to a December 12, 2015 article by Elizabeth Chuck for NBC News.
“More than 10,000 undocumented children have been stopped in just the last two months, according to U.S. Border and Customs Protection,” reports Chuck.
Southwest Key sources report that the shelters are at capacity ensuring that El Presidente’s coffers will remain full.
While Southwest Key has found the pipeline to attract minors, employees are another matter. Without exception, all of the many whistleblowers with whom we met describe their initial excitement with the prospect of helping children who had fled from oppressive poverty, and the feelings of betrayal that led them to flee the oppressive Southwest Key.
One whistleblower explained how they came to understand the organization’s bottom line. “They brain wash us,” said the former employee with a Master’s Degree in Social Work.
They believe that Southwest Key management engages in a systematic beating down of an employee’s self-esteem so that eventually they become more manageable and resistant to questionable practices.
From forcing professional staff to clean toilets, to altering their case notes, staff confidence is slowly eroded. That lack of confidence leads to fear, and fear leads to silence.
“Maintenance people were involved in the same training,” they said. The whistleblower described learning how the program came about, and learned about the mission.
“Like wow, they really dotted their I’s and crossed their T’s,” they said. “Whole different story once it started. Whole different story.
The training started and no one got the training that they needed. … it was devastating. I hope I don’t have PTSD because I saw so much that I couldn’t take it anymore.”
MORE...
June 12, 2018
https://twitter.com/MCrizvi/status/1005960180918575106?s=20
🤣 Dotard hates it when someone else at the party is wearing the same outfit
"I hate it when someone else at the party is wearing the same outfit as me. Don't you?"https://twitter.com/MCrizvi/status/1005960180918575106?s=20
June 12, 2018
This is why I have no need to step anywhere outside my Democratic Party.
This right here.
June 10, 2018
From the Daily Beast:
https://amp.thedailybeast.com/the-madness-of-king-trump-on-full-display-at-the-g7?__twitter_impression=true
March 2018:
https://twitter.com/PuestoLoco/status/979403831653163008?s=20
From the Guardian
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2018/mar/29/trump-fbi-hotel-latvia-investigation-russia-links?__twitter_impression=true
The Putin/Trump Pact of 2013 . We are now in the Coming Out Phase
https://twitter.com/PuestoLoco/status/1005828842085408768?s=20From the Daily Beast:
https://amp.thedailybeast.com/the-madness-of-king-trump-on-full-display-at-the-g7?__twitter_impression=true
March 2018:
https://twitter.com/PuestoLoco/status/979403831653163008?s=20
From the Guardian
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2018/mar/29/trump-fbi-hotel-latvia-investigation-russia-links?__twitter_impression=true
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