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February 24, 2020

why exactly does Putin love Bernie?

I think we need to ask ourselves why we should vote for a candidate that Putin loves so much? After reading this, if you still think voting for Bernie is the right choice, you're making this way to easy for Russia!!

“If Sanders wins the Democratic nomination, then Trump wins the White House,” predicts Igor Yurgens, president of the Institute of Contemporary Development, and a former advisor to erstwhile Russian president Dmitry Medvedev. “America won’t vote for such a leftie candidate. If you’re sitting in the [FSB headquarters at] Lubyanka and watching this race, you see that helping Sanders helps Trump. At least, that’s what I would do.”

Yurgens, who once told me that the Kremlin sees Trump as “our wrecking ball,” believes that the Putin regime is hoping for a second Trump term, as does Pavlovsky. “Our favorite is Trump,” Yurgens says of how both the Russian elite and mainstream society view the American president. “He shares our ideology and has shown as much sympathy to Russia as was humanly possible. The mainstream and the media support him and will do anything that helps Trump win, including supporting Sanders.”

Over the weekend, trying to make sense of what Russians might be thinking about Bernie Sanders, I also called Andranik Migranyan, who used to run a Russian government-funded think tank attached to the Russian mission to the U.N. Perhaps more notably, he’s also a close friend and former classmate of Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov. “I don’t think anyone really respects or values Sanders here,” Migranyan told me.

“It’s like a knife in the throat,” he went on. “The things Sanders says even Russian communists would be too scared to say. He is a real communist. I always said to Americans, ‘Your brilliant future is our horrible past.’ We collapsed into nothing because of Communism, and now this is the dream that Sanders is offering—and a big part of your country is following him into the abyss.” If Sanders secures the nomination, warns Polymeropoulos, the retired CIA officer, who worked to counter Russian interference after 2016, this is exactly the kind of attack you can expect to see from Russian bots. “Bernie’s socialist credentials is exactly the hot-button, divisive issue that Russia will seek to use to cause chaos,” says Polymeropoulos.

“I suspect that, for our people [at the top], Sanders looks like the mad professor from ‘Back to the Future,’” says Russian political scientist Ekaterina Schulmann, who teaches future government workers at the Russian Presidential Academy of National Economy and Public Administration, in Moscow. “Which is why he’s very convenient for starting a pan-American brawl. Let them all fight each other while we lay another gas pipeline somewhere!”

And this, according to everyone I asked, is the central goal.

“The ideal scenario is to maintain the schism and uncertainty in the States till the end,” says Pavolvovsky. “Our candidate is chaos.”

“Russian active measures thrive on chaos, and this is what a second Trump term delivers,” says Polymeropoulos. “America is at war with itself politically for another four years. Advantage: Russia. Second, while it’s true that the Trump administration has at times been very tough on Russia with respect to sanctions, strategically, under the Trump administration, Russians have regained a foothold in the Middle East, NATO is weakened by a more disengaged America, and Trump’s disdain for Ukraine is a huge boon for Russia.”


https://www.gq.com/story/why-does-putin-love-bernie
February 21, 2020

just reported in NY Times

Source: NY Times

Intelligence officials warned House lawmakers last week that Russia was interfering in the 2020 campaign to try to get President Trump re-elected, five people familiar with the matter said, a disclosure to Congress that angered Mr. Trump, who complained that Democrats would use it against him.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/20/us/politics/russian-interference-trump-democrats.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage



ya think? DUH!!

hell yes we'll use it against him & we should!!

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I'm 70 & have been a democrat all of my life. Apart from politics, I enjoy listening to classic & alternative rock, reading Stephen King novels & playing with my cat.
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