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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts) Tue Feb 20, 2018, 05:54 PM Feb 2018

That couple the Florida killer was living with [View all]

I saw them interviewed in a video clip this morning on CBS.

They knew he had mental issues.

They knew the 19 year old had 5 or 7 guns.
They knew he had an AR-15.

They themselves own a number of guns.

Said it's everyone's right to own guns, including military assault weapons.

Were shocked something happened.

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That couple the Florida killer was living with [View all] left-of-center2012 Feb 2018 OP

They are lucky he did not take them out first dhol82 Feb 2018 #1

Said this elsewhere... Girard442 Feb 2018 #2

Fucking morons onecaliberal Feb 2018 #3

They should be charged with facilitation of a crime. no_hypocrisy Feb 2018 #4

The very definition provided clearly makes them not guilty. NutmegYankee Feb 2018 #8

There are degrees of "knowledge". Having a suspicion that someone with mental and emotional issues no_hypocrisy Feb 2018 #9

Which isn't even remotely close to the requirements of the crime cited NutmegYankee Feb 2018 #44

Their Own Guns Would Have Protected Them....LOL!! SoCalMusicLover Feb 2018 #5

"Too bad he didn't shoot them"? WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2018 #11

Nothing demonstrates a commitment to ending gun violence sarisataka Feb 2018 #14

They Said They Would Not Have Done Anything Different SoCalMusicLover Feb 2018 #17

+1 Sickening to see such a comment posted here. grossproffit Feb 2018 #19

No more and no less than merely owning a gun. LanternWaste Feb 2018 #25

One is literally calling for people to be killed mythology Feb 2018 #29

Maybe we're learning our rhetoric from Faux News maxrandb Feb 2018 #107

I was told sarisataka Feb 2018 #31

I cannot believe I read that either. Tipperary Feb 2018 #103

That's pretty fucked up. Thanks for posting this. AtheistCrusader Feb 2018 #15

Quoting for posterity X_Digger Feb 2018 #16

"Too bad he didn't shoot them early that morning, prior to his school rampage. " Retrotech Feb 2018 #20

I wish I could have found an alert category. nolabear Feb 2018 #52

you should self delete this Kali Feb 2018 #54

You are a disgusting human being. MicaelS Feb 2018 #77

You should self delete this ugly, shameful post. Tipperary Feb 2018 #104

Keeping it classy huh Calculating Feb 2018 #106

Idiots. I know they tried to help, but they failed him badly. SunSeeker Feb 2018 #6

The idiots were lucky they weren't shot before he left for the school. That's the usual MO. Vinca Feb 2018 #7

Seems to me there were some DUers falling all over themselves defending them GusBob Feb 2018 #10

i am one of them..this place goes batshit over a stray kitten, stray teen? not so much dembotoz Feb 2018 #12

Except this has nothing at all to do with cats, you, your son or his friends GusBob Feb 2018 #13

Couple years ago I took in a soon to be homeless acquaintance dembotoz Feb 2018 #67

You have no idea what the parents knew. So easy to blame them. They tried to help.... USALiberal Feb 2018 #70

The fact is Cruz is a white supremacist and a terrorist GusBob Feb 2018 #76

Typical lynch mob mentality here. nt USALiberal Feb 2018 #80

exactly HopeAgain Feb 2018 #81

Thank you, I agree! Nt USALiberal Feb 2018 #82

It is being reported the kid has an inheritance of $800K GusBob Feb 2018 #99

But youre not judging without all the facts... HopeAgain Feb 2018 #100

Things do not occur in a vacuum GusBob Feb 2018 #101

Cruz was technically an adult, legally in possession of the guns. HopeAgain Feb 2018 #102

Turns out the kid is worth $800K GusBob Feb 2018 #98

I'll bet you dollars to donuts that these people listen to InfoWars and other CT shows LiberalLovinLug Feb 2018 #18

Based on what exactly? Baconator Feb 2018 #87

I hope they are sued into poverty by the victims samir.g Feb 2018 #21

Or at least for an amount equaling the value of their gun collection... IthinkThereforeIAM Feb 2018 #78

This is what happens when gun fetishes are normalized. hunter Feb 2018 #22

whether true or not they have to respond this way. Chakaconcarne Feb 2018 #23

They took in a troubled kid orangecrush Feb 2018 #24

Nope. Evidently too much to ask. Nt B2G Feb 2018 #38

Cruz was the one who purchased the safe. LisaL Feb 2018 #41

revenge outrage Kali Feb 2018 #55

Thanks Kali orangecrush Feb 2018 #72

Why would they have a troubled kid with guns in their house safe or not ?! tia uponit7771 Feb 2018 #59

People make mistakes. orangecrush Feb 2018 #73

I think they made mistakes mountain grammy Feb 2018 #79

totally agree orangecrush Feb 2018 #85

Thanks hueymahl Feb 2018 #66

Thank you orangecrush Feb 2018 #71

They knew there were two keys to the gun locker-it was their locker bdjhawk Feb 2018 #26

I saw some of the interview as well Catherine Vincent Feb 2018 #27

This is not a fair characterization of that family GitRDun Feb 2018 #28

They also weren't his guardians. I saw an interview with them this morning. LisaM Feb 2018 #30

I hear you I really do GitRDun Feb 2018 #33

They also weren't obligated to let him to live in their house, keeping multiple guns in his room. LisaL Feb 2018 #42

That was what most struck me - that owning an AR-15 seemed normal to them. LisaM Feb 2018 #53

+1 uponit7771 Feb 2018 #62

It's an AR-15. AR-16 was never put into production. LisaL Feb 2018 #74

I agree. I was in their corner too, but that interview is making it hard for me to stay there. kcr Feb 2018 #86

Thank you. ollie10 Feb 2018 #37

He bought the safe himself, those safes comes with two keys. Why would they allow uponit7771 Feb 2018 #60

Exactly. He purchased the safe, safe was in his room. LisaL Feb 2018 #75

I saw the interview, it made me sick liberal N proud Feb 2018 #32

It made no difference. The first woman who took him in, the woman who had been named pnwmom Feb 2018 #34

You are defending the guy who to this day thinks Cruz had a right to own an AR-15. LisaL Feb 2018 #39

I am defending logic. Whether he had a roof over his head or was living in the park, pnwmom Feb 2018 #46

What of a 19 year old female wanted to have a 35 year old man she met JI7 Feb 2018 #50

Does that scenario have anything to do with the Cruz case? pnwmom Feb 2018 #56

I imagine those who are ok with bringing the guns would not be ok with 19 year old JI7 Feb 2018 #57

But whether they were okay with the guns in their house or not pnwmom Feb 2018 #61

So what ? 19 year old girls can go somewhere else to have sex JI7 Feb 2018 #65

But that has nothing to do with the situation. I clearly said above that I wouldn't have pnwmom Feb 2018 #68

There is still something seriously wrong with it and what they are NOW saying JI7 Feb 2018 #69

Do you think Cruz had a right to own an AR-15? LisaL Feb 2018 #58

I think he legally had the right and he shouldn't. The laws should have been changed long ago. pnwmom Feb 2018 #63

There is nothing logical about this argument kcr Feb 2018 #89

Can you explain how kicking him out of the house with his gun, like the first woman did, pnwmom Feb 2018 #90

So, host someone with a bunch of guns because someone's going to do it anyway? kcr Feb 2018 #91

I've said more than once that I probably would have reacted like the first woman. pnwmom Feb 2018 #92

I don't think anyone is arguing that they caused it. kcr Feb 2018 #94

Yeah, there ARE some people arguing that by giving him a home pnwmom Feb 2018 #95

Oh they absolutely enabled him kcr Feb 2018 #96

They didn't allow him to move in "willy nilly" with his guns. They required him pnwmom Feb 2018 #97

idiots. spanone Feb 2018 #35

They need to be prosecuted and jailed! They'll certainly be sued up the ying-yang & rightfully so. InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2018 #36

Why? Numerous people had reported him and the state agencies did nothing. pnwmom Feb 2018 #47

Well... That's just creepy and authoritarian... Baconator Feb 2018 #88

No they shouldn't, and no they won't be obamanut2012 Feb 2018 #105

Any responsible party would know you don't have guns around people that are having mental issues. del19713 Feb 2018 #40

The first family wouldn't let him in, so he left with his guns. Sometime later, he did the shooting. pnwmom Feb 2018 #49

Just lsewpershad Feb 2018 #43

Adam Lanza's mother also knew her son had mental issues Chimichurri Feb 2018 #45

The situations aren't the same at all. These people didn't give him weapons, pnwmom Feb 2018 #48

You're right, it isn't the same. But they're also not his parents kcr Feb 2018 #93

Yup. They're idiots AND liars. nt SunSeeker Feb 2018 #51

+1, You're severely depressed? Here, shoot a bunch of these bullets to feel better ... uponit7771 Feb 2018 #64

Youre mixing up the couple with his mom. NutmegYankee Feb 2018 #83

Owning 7 guns is a warning sign. librechik Feb 2018 #84