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In reply to the discussion: Do y'all realize how much the Joe Biden "frontrunner" talk smacks of white male entitlement? [View all]Gothmog
(145,839 posts)108. I like Joe Biden and would support his if he runs
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Do y'all realize how much the Joe Biden "frontrunner" talk smacks of white male entitlement? [View all]
EffieBlack
Mar 2018
OP
Just another person who thinks Joe's time has come and gone. There are better candidates we have to
still_one
Mar 2018
#127
I prefer Biden (the first VP to serve under the first Black president of the US) to the others.
FreepFryer
Mar 2018
#3
I didn't say it was - I'm saying my preference for Biden is not based in racial/gender bias...
FreepFryer
Mar 2018
#16
Agreed - and many will get it, and reject it even while understanding white male privilege. (n/t)
FreepFryer
Mar 2018
#73
It is when you are telling that Joe Biden is the front runner b/c he is white. You called it
vkkv
Mar 2018
#104
I brought up white male privilege - why are you focusing only on the white part
EffieBlack
Mar 2018
#192
Most of what you say is correct, however, your OP did not mention ONE SINGLE quality of
vkkv
Mar 2018
#196
No I like Joe and I got to say if Sen. Sanders runs, and I hope he doesn't, we need a strong
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#27
I actually don't have hard feeling for Sanders...but I notice you rush to his defense even when its
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#183
My concern is the next presidential election. I believe him to be divisive and that could cause
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#230
That's how I see it. Biden is respected by left & right. Disillusioned R's will vote for Biden.
flibbitygiblets
Mar 2018
#31
Geeezzuzz - This is a racist statement. Let the most qualified win! You really don't see your
vkkv
Mar 2018
#110
Representation is still so new that the system continues to reward people who have "paid their
WhiskeyGrinder
Mar 2018
#6
It smacks more of name recognition. We did nominate HRC last time and Barack Obama before her.
FSogol
Mar 2018
#7
He has had presidential fever for years...if he is healthy, and there is support, he will run.
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#29
That will never happen...Dems start at different places...they just do. It can
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#39
It may change over time as people become more accustomed to female candidates and
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#103
That would be wonderful and it could happen. I like all the Democratic Candidates
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#140
Wow. You are accusing everyone who disagrees with you of not reading/understanding the OP. Not ok.
FreepFryer
Mar 2018
#30
No, I'm saying if you respond to my lengthy and thoughtful post within 10 minutes
EffieBlack
Mar 2018
#37
Lots of us think about similar things regularly or might have had this conversation before
Blue_Adept
Mar 2018
#60
Donald Trump wasn't electable in 2014; Barack Obama wasn't electable in 2006
EffieBlack
Mar 2018
#33
I don't think Donald Trump was elected...election stolen...but he was an outsider...two of your
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#42
It is now becoming evident that Trump directly or indirectly had hidden help.
Blue_true
Mar 2018
#245
I love Joe Biden and don't agree...I am a woman. If Joe Biden is shown to strong in the primaries,
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#14
I don't think Biden has the same "presumptive lock" on the nomination as Clinton had.
JustABozoOnThisBus
Mar 2018
#15
Biden's the anti-Trump, yes. AND, he has that "non-PC" off-the-cuff style that Trump voters love.
flibbitygiblets
Mar 2018
#43
If you believe that her experience was not an impediment for some, you just weren't paying attention
EffieBlack
Mar 2018
#223
Yeah! Who would imagine that a former incumbent VP would be considered a front-runner for President?
brooklynite
Mar 2018
#24
And she and her supporters were attacked endlessly for her frontrunner status
EffieBlack
Mar 2018
#50
Yep... Likely for the same reason that you're attacking his reported frontrunner status
FBaggins
Mar 2018
#55
I'd say at this point that you're the only one really being obnoxious in this thread
Blue_Adept
Mar 2018
#72
How much do you know about the others' "charisma" if they're not yet in the ring?
EffieBlack
Mar 2018
#52
It's not like they're unknowns, especially to people at DU that talk about them daily
Blue_Adept
Mar 2018
#63
Bill Clinton was seen as little more than a joke before well into the '92 race
EffieBlack
Mar 2018
#134
So we just shouldn't run a minority or woman because some people are bigots?
EffieBlack
Mar 2018
#170
Knowing about a politician and knowing whether they have charisma on the presidential campaign trail
EffieBlack
Mar 2018
#159
I don't think it's frontrunner status by itself is evidence of the entitlement
EffieBlack
Mar 2018
#82
Oh, Good Lord. I'm not taking out anything on Biden. Nor have I suggested that he be "disqualified."
EffieBlack
Mar 2018
#220
Get off of it. If I said that I hadn't even considered race than I'm a racist, right? If I said
vkkv
Mar 2018
#85
Oh, please - spare me the "You mentioned race. Stop calling me a RACIST!" response
EffieBlack
Mar 2018
#92
No response to the Harris Gillibrand poor judgement on Franken? Is that leadership points for them?
vkkv
Mar 2018
#95
Exactly, that too.. Harris Gillibrand screwed Al Franken. That was not a good demostration of
vkkv
Mar 2018
#114
I actually edited the OP earlier to take out that reference to "white" Democrats
EffieBlack
Mar 2018
#128
And the only reason some are listing him as a frontrunner is because of a name recognition poll
Blue_Adept
Mar 2018
#99
Do y'all realize how much the Joe Biden "frontrunner" talk smacks of white male entitlement?
bucolic_frolic
Mar 2018
#115
Discussion about white male entitlement on a Democratic discussion board sews discord?
EffieBlack
Mar 2018
#149
My God, must EVERYTHING be about privilege and how Hillary was treated?
Still In Wisconsin
Mar 2018
#119
Theres a huge difference between frontrunner and presumptive nominee before the race even starts
Kentonio
Mar 2018
#130
Sen Harris at the top of the ticket and Adm. William McRaven for VP would be a HUGE
Exotica
Mar 2018
#197
OK, I get it. You don't see race. But why do you see him as a man first and not just a person?
EffieBlack
Mar 2018
#142
Judging Biden in terms of his race or his sex is about as ridiculous as judging him by the color of
ollie10
Mar 2018
#158
Pointing out that he's the beneficiary of white male entitlement is not a judgment on him
EffieBlack
Mar 2018
#182
No - I'm pointing out that certain traits that are treated as excellent qualifications for him
EffieBlack
Mar 2018
#208
So in the past three presidential elections, we nominated a black twice and a woman once
ollie10
Mar 2018
#218
Joe would make a great president as would several others who have passed my bar of decent, honest pe
Sunlei
Mar 2018
#152
They're different people, yet both honest and true Ds. Love to see them as Pres & VP :)
Sunlei
Mar 2018
#165
If you read the whole thread, you will see a breathtaking degree of ignorance about what
EffieBlack
Mar 2018
#224
You clearly seem to have a beef against VP Biden for whatever reason. nt
Tommy_Carcetti
Mar 2018
#174
Let's come together, welcome anyone who wants to run, see where each stands on issues
democrank
Mar 2018
#176
Does this have anything to do with Joe saying that HE would have beaten Trump in 2016?
progressoid
Mar 2018
#178
Not necessarily a Biden guy here, but he was VP. That puts you near the front by default. nt
Lucky Luciano
Mar 2018
#180
He's a former Vice President to a very successful administration that is viewed very positively...
Drunken Irishman
Mar 2018
#186
Well Biden is not at all on the top of my list, and you're right, the things that were a negative
JCanete
Mar 2018
#194
Was it white female entitlement when for over 3 years, Hillary Clinton was called the frontrunner?
karynnj
Mar 2018
#195
You missed my points and I did not miss your point, I DISAGREE WITH IT. Not the same thing
karynnj
Mar 2018
#210
Between Anita Hill and threatening to punch the president, I dont think so...
bettyellen
Mar 2018
#214
While I didn't give it any thought previously, I can see where Effie is comming from.
Afromania
Mar 2018
#229
The OP is about frontrunner talk and Hillary was the ultimate frontrunner for the nomination
BeyondGeography
Mar 2018
#256
Im making perfect sense. You just seem to be having trouble understanding it.
EffieBlack
Mar 2018
#257