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In reply to the discussion: Bernie cannot come to the cookout. Sorry, not sorry. [View all]BumRushDaShow
(128,953 posts)49. As I posted to you above
Senator Sanders has consciously chosen not to identify with his birthright religion and that is certainly his right. Far be it for me (or anyone else for that matter) to impose such on him.
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Mr. Sanders, those who know him say, exemplifies a distinct strain of Jewish identity, a secular offshoot at least 150 years old whose adherents in the shtetls of Eastern Europe and the jostling streets of the Lower East Side were socialists, anarchists, radicals and union organizers focused less on observance than on economic justice and repairing a broken world. Indeed, he seems more comfortable speaking about Pope Francis, whose views on income inequality he admires, than about his own religious beliefs.
Rabbi Paley, who worked with Jews in central Vermont when he was a Dartmouth College chaplain, recalled once talking with Mr. Sanders about non-Jewish Jews, a term coined by a leftist biographer, Isaac Deutscher, to describe those who express Jewish values through their solidarity with the persecuted. Mr. Sanders seemed to acknowledge that the term described him, Rabbi Paley said.
But the secular image that Mr. Sanders casts is also complicating the way American Jews regard the historic nature of his candidacy.
When Joseph I. Lieberman, an Orthodox Jew who spurned campaigning on the Sabbath, was Al Gores vice-presidential running mate in 2000, many Jewish voters saw it as a breakthrough. While Mr. Sanderss surprising run for even higher office is eliciting many strong emotions, religious pride is usually not the main one. Joe was an observant Jew; Bernie is marginal, said Morris Harary, a lawyer who lives near Mr. Sanderss childhood home in Brooklyn. As a history maker, he said, Mr. Lieberman was much more of a big deal.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/25/us/politics/bernie-sanders-jewish.html
Mr. Sanders, those who know him say, exemplifies a distinct strain of Jewish identity, a secular offshoot at least 150 years old whose adherents in the shtetls of Eastern Europe and the jostling streets of the Lower East Side were socialists, anarchists, radicals and union organizers focused less on observance than on economic justice and repairing a broken world. Indeed, he seems more comfortable speaking about Pope Francis, whose views on income inequality he admires, than about his own religious beliefs.
Rabbi Paley, who worked with Jews in central Vermont when he was a Dartmouth College chaplain, recalled once talking with Mr. Sanders about non-Jewish Jews, a term coined by a leftist biographer, Isaac Deutscher, to describe those who express Jewish values through their solidarity with the persecuted. Mr. Sanders seemed to acknowledge that the term described him, Rabbi Paley said.
But the secular image that Mr. Sanders casts is also complicating the way American Jews regard the historic nature of his candidacy.
When Joseph I. Lieberman, an Orthodox Jew who spurned campaigning on the Sabbath, was Al Gores vice-presidential running mate in 2000, many Jewish voters saw it as a breakthrough. While Mr. Sanderss surprising run for even higher office is eliciting many strong emotions, religious pride is usually not the main one. Joe was an observant Jew; Bernie is marginal, said Morris Harary, a lawyer who lives near Mr. Sanderss childhood home in Brooklyn. As a history maker, he said, Mr. Lieberman was much more of a big deal.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/25/us/politics/bernie-sanders-jewish.html
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I don't find the voice of this African American female activist local to the area to be divisive.
LexVegas
Apr 2018
#3
So do 42 (NAACP) and 17 (ACLU) other Democratic Senators and scores of Democratic House Members
EffieBlack
Apr 2018
#161
There were "cookouts" in his home state on April 4, too, where most members of Congress....
George II
Apr 2018
#179
Straw-man...argument that you'll have to prove exists in the mindset of those with complaints about
JCanete
Apr 2018
#107
This OP was alerted on as well. It is outrageous. Censoring a black female columnist.
yardwork
Apr 2018
#45
appealing as far as I can tell is entirely pointless. I'm sorry you got a hide. That is frankly,
JCanete
Apr 2018
#110
I agree but you should always appeal an unfair hide. I believe that those administering these things
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#165
How could I be? I am half Jewish. I was shocked to find out my entire family that lived in Germany
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#152
In the simplistic and nonsensical trinary construct of "race" in the United States
BumRushDaShow
Apr 2018
#149
You are deflecting...no one on this board disagrees with Sen. Sanders because he is Jewish, but
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#128
Apparently, black women aren't supposed to say anything but praise for white men.
yardwork
Apr 2018
#35
Because of my time zone I saw her posts removed in the middle of the night U.S. time.
betsuni
Apr 2018
#63
Well, Sanders did get to come to the cookout. He was invited to the cookout, so ...
JCanete
Apr 2018
#18
"Surveys" have nothing to do with a result that happened from actual "votes".
BumRushDaShow
Apr 2018
#96
Well he didn't do that. Your interpretation, based on his words? or on tweets about his words? is
JCanete
Apr 2018
#106
are you referencing an official statement? Like I said maybe I missed something. Or are you really
JCanete
Apr 2018
#146
You can't as my dear old Dad said legislate morality. But you can legislate the hell out of
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#131
If Sanders wants to campaign in Mississippi on the anniversary of MLK's murder,
yardwork
Apr 2018
#42
Nope the people whom are targets of racism will not share in any economic prosperity until racism is
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#182
I have no reason to believe these views are not quite sincerely held by many - including the author
Tom Rinaldo
Apr 2018
#71
He is not an ally of the Democratic Party and has spoken repeatedly about Identity politics.
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#134
I am not talking about voting although that is important. He voted on what was introduced mostly. I
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#148
I disagree with your order. YOu can't get equality and justice if you let economics continue to be
JCanete
Apr 2018
#109
TPP and Nafta aren't about economic justice. Interesting that you think otherwise.
JCanete
Apr 2018
#114
No that's a pernicious myth. 58% of Americans support free trade, including 71% of Hispanics.
ucrdem
Apr 2018
#117
It wasn't a rally, it was a campaign. And if you like tariffs get ready for a feast. nt
ucrdem
Apr 2018
#175
racism existed of course, but there was a real need to institutionalize a sense of inferiority
JCanete
Apr 2018
#142
I am not sure anyone is focusing on economic justice and social justice. I agree with everything you
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#147
If I wanted to find out what his major legislative accomplishments were, where would I look?
NurseJackie
Apr 2018
#174