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In reply to the discussion: Prison Abuse and Rape aren't Laughing Matters [View all]radius777
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all about them, while derailing issues of abuse that other groups face, your post was exhibit A, as it attempted to demonize and delegitimize male victims, was oblivious to the fact that this issue is not limited to men but also includes juveniles and women in detention, and attemped the typical feminist thread hijack that tries to spin a narrative where all men are oppressors of all women, when this is simply untrue, given how many white women vote for the oppressor and how many men (of color mainly, but also some white men) vote with the oppressed. The success of Feminism and MeToo owes heavily to the fact that these are movements driven mainly by middle class white women, and as such, do not address the topic of this thread, which is the widespread abuse and torture of human beings within our own jails and detention facilities.
White women as a class (who voted for Trump 53% to Hillary 42%) are the prime beneficiaries of MeToo, which is not a liberal movement per se, considering how many conservative women like LeAnn Tweeden (who took out Franken) are part of it.
Josephine Yurcaba
January 8, 2018
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Prisons and jails havent faced much public outrage for widespread sexual abuse problems partially because people just dont know how bad things are. I think a lot of myths and negative stereotypes flourish because prisons are isolatedI think both geographically and kind of culturally, Lerner-Kinglake said. Theres an othering that happens with prisoners. And I think bringing prisoners into the conversation so that we see them as full people who are worthy and deserving of rights [is how we change culture].
But changing cultureeven outside of prisonsisnt easy, and #MeToo has illuminated that. The movement has shown the extent of sexual abuse and harassment women face, and, for the most part, its accepted that those women dont deserve that abuse. But those women who have become the face of the movement usually havent been charged with crimes. Theres an extra battle that prison abuse survivors face: The public thinks prisoners deserve what they get, and theres a persistent belief that inmates do not have rights.
In practice, the culture defines what these institutions actually take seriously, Fettig said. The fact that the vast majority of people in prisonwhether theyre men or womenare poor people of color plays into how our criminal justice system operates at every single level. It plays into the fact that the larger public doesnt pay attention to these issues, and doesnt take them seriously.
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