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radius777

(3,635 posts)
26. White feminism is constantly trying to make the narrative
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 12:51 AM
Apr 2018

Last edited Wed Apr 25, 2018, 04:26 PM - Edit history (2)

all about them, while derailing issues of abuse that other groups face, your post was exhibit A, as it attempted to demonize and delegitimize male victims, was oblivious to the fact that this issue is not limited to men but also includes juveniles and women in detention, and attemped the typical feminist thread hijack that tries to spin a narrative where all men are oppressors of all women, when this is simply untrue, given how many white women vote for the oppressor and how many men (of color mainly, but also some white men) vote with the oppressed. The success of Feminism and MeToo owes heavily to the fact that these are movements driven mainly by middle class white women, and as such, do not address the topic of this thread, which is the widespread abuse and torture of human beings within our own jails and detention facilities.

White women as a class (who voted for Trump 53% to Hillary 42%) are the prime beneficiaries of MeToo, which is not a liberal movement per se, considering how many conservative women like LeAnn Tweeden (who took out Franken) are part of it.

For Survivors of Prison Rape, Saying ‘Me Too’ Isn’t an Option
Josephine Yurcaba
January 8, 2018
Rewire
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Prisons and jails haven’t faced much public outrage for widespread sexual abuse problems partially because people just don’t know how bad things are. “I think a lot of myths and negative stereotypes flourish … because prisons are isolated—I think both geographically and kind of culturally,” Lerner-Kinglake said. “There’s an othering that happens with prisoners. And I think bringing prisoners into the conversation so that we see them as full people who are worthy and deserving of rights [is how we change culture].”

But changing culture—even outside of prisons—isn’t easy, and #MeToo has illuminated that. The movement has shown the extent of sexual abuse and harassment women face, and, for the most part, it’s accepted that those women don’t deserve that abuse. But those women who have become the face of the movement usually haven’t been charged with crimes. There’s an extra battle that prison abuse survivors face: The public thinks prisoners deserve what they get, and there’s a persistent belief that inmates do not have rights.

“In practice, the culture defines what these institutions actually take seriously,” Fettig said. “The fact that the vast majority of people in prison—whether they’re men or women—are poor people of color plays into how our criminal justice system operates at every single level. It plays into the fact that the larger public doesn’t pay attention to these issues, and doesn’t take them seriously.”
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Such posts should always be hidden by DU juries. MineralMan Apr 2018 #1
K&R. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2018 #2
Well said. nt NCTraveler Apr 2018 #3
We are a duty in society to ensure that prisoners exboyfil Apr 2018 #4
I agree with your point about prison rape janterry Apr 2018 #5
It's really disgusting Saviolo Apr 2018 #6
It really is NOT funny whathehell Apr 2018 #16
White women shouldnt have a monopoly on abuse issues. radius777 Apr 2018 #18
Um, who said anything about "white" women? whathehell Apr 2018 #24
White feminism is constantly trying to make the narrative radius777 Apr 2018 #26
Please show us how "white feminism is always trying to make the narrative whathehell Apr 2018 #28
Not all white women are feminists wryter2000 Apr 2018 #29
Thank you. whathehell Apr 2018 #30
Any time I've alerted those opinions, they've been hidden. Why not edit out the uncalled for... marble falls Apr 2018 #7
It's not uncalled for. SomethingNew Apr 2018 #8
More than some. Every time. Rape is not funny and it isn't condoned here as a joke or policy... marble falls Apr 2018 #20
I'm with you-- it's much more effective and efficient to hide a problem that (really) exists. LanternWaste Apr 2018 #10
Show me where its even been suggested that rape is funny or that prison rape is good policy. marble falls Apr 2018 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author left-of-center2012 Apr 2018 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author left-of-center2012 Apr 2018 #19
One can measure a society by the acceptance of those things. byronius Apr 2018 #11
K&R geardaddy Apr 2018 #12
I am glad you brought this up with the moderators bronxiteforever Apr 2018 #13
Thank you for this!!! I 100% agree! nt USALiberal Apr 2018 #14
Thank you. Yes. TygrBright Apr 2018 #15
Agree completely, it's a human rights issue on a mass scale. radius777 Apr 2018 #17
thanks for this post cynical_idealist Apr 2018 #22
something that people forget DonCoquixote Apr 2018 #23
K&R uppityperson Apr 2018 #25
K&R Mike Niendorff Apr 2018 #27
I agree. Any post making light of rape should be hidden. Nitram Apr 2018 #31
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