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pbmus

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Fri Jun 22, 2018, 06:20 PM Jun 2018

Can we talk about alcoholism and Anthony Bourdain? [View all]


I didn't know Anthony Bourdain, but felt like I did in one small important way. In him, I saw a drinking alcoholic with a front-stage vigorous attempt to do it successfully. His was a fantastic life-embracing show, with drinking taking a prominent role in the joie de vivre, and sometimes that made it hard for me to watch.

When he threw back shots, indeed got wasted, I saw a fellow alcoholic living dangerously whereas most viewers, I imagine, saw “a man who knew how to drink, knew how to live.” His state of mind will be called depression, and who can argue with that in the wake of his suicide. But can we please, people, start connecting the dots to alcoholism (also a disease of the mind), at least when it is screamingly evident?

Perhaps I should not presume to think I know, but I can at least invite the conversation where it is uncomfortably and amazingly absent. Did alcoholism (which brings depression or ineffectively “treats” depression) ultimately take down Bourdain?

Alcohol is a drug. “Drugs” and “alcohol” remain separate in conversations about addiction, like a “bad sister” doing outrageous unthinkable things while the “good sister” quietly nurses a prom hangover and shame from a blackout.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-perspec-alcoholism-anthony-bourdain-drinking-suicide-0622-20180621-story.html

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I do think that drinking is a form of self-medication for depressed people dhol82 Jun 2018 #1
He said he only drank on the road. That he abstained when back in the US. applegrove Jun 2018 #2
I read that also mitch96 Jun 2018 #18
Yes. After a heroin addiction it must be hard to find a happy normal. Even years applegrove Jun 2018 #20
Interesting take, for sure Docreed2003 Jun 2018 #3
Worthy conversation. IluvPitties Jun 2018 #4
"Perhaps I should not presume to think I know," Loki Liesmith Jun 2018 #5
Was thinking along the same lines oberliner Jun 2018 #6
+1 n/t FreeState Jun 2018 #13
Apparently you were not watching Anthony with any knowledge of.... pbmus Jun 2018 #25
This. Tipperary Jun 2018 #37
I saw a picture of him once and he was very, very thin. Alkie was my first thought. monmouth4 Jun 2018 #7
Alkie was your first thought from "very, very thin?" shanny Jun 2018 #28
I found that odd too. Tipperary Jun 2018 #38
Conversely, depression brings the alcoholism. blue neen Jun 2018 #8
We watched him drink on TV for 18 years, starting with "A Cook's Tour." yallerdawg Jun 2018 #9
His show in Chiang Mai, Thailand had me scratching my head. Most of the show was a constant Fred Sanders Jun 2018 #10
And any show with his Russian buddy Zamir. yallerdawg Jun 2018 #12
Chang Mai has amazing food FreeState Jun 2018 #14
His San Francisco episode was similar eissa Jun 2018 #22
I thought the same thing. LiberalLoner Jun 2018 #11
The article reads like it is written for an AA group local paper nt irisblue Jun 2018 #15
Interesting. H2O Man Jun 2018 #16
People with mental illness often fall victim to drug and alcohol abuse gollygee Jun 2018 #17
My son is a recovering heroin addict Freddie Jun 2018 #19
dt brings on alcoholism too. Crutchez_CuiBono Jun 2018 #21
He was a former heroin and cocaine addict but never heard that he was an alcoholic. Kaleva Jun 2018 #23
Speculation regarding possible alcohol addiction does no good Major Nikon Jun 2018 #24
I think that the creator of the thread was inviting discussion on the more general issue. Eyeball_Kid Jun 2018 #26
I didn't get that out of the OP Major Nikon Jun 2018 #31
Anthony drank major amounts of alcohol in almost every episode... pbmus Jun 2018 #34
It takes weeks to film an episode Major Nikon Jun 2018 #42
Basically, if you are an addict, you will replace one addiction with another. smirkymonkey Jun 2018 #35
Just yesterday The Atlantic published a review of advances on diagnosing alcoholism grantcart Jun 2018 #27
That was interesting. nt ecstatic Jun 2018 #30
Thanks for a very informative article... pbmus Jun 2018 #32
Interesting article. smirkymonkey Jun 2018 #36
Alcohol is a drug. dvan Jun 2018 #29
Thank you for your experienced perspective... pbmus Jun 2018 #33
I agree an addict is an addict. MoonchildCA Jun 2018 #39
Thank you for your honest post....Addiction is a disease... pbmus Jun 2018 #40
That's something I hadn't considered about Anthony Bourdain, but it makes a lot of sense. Vinca Jun 2018 #41
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