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GaryCnf

(1,399 posts)
35. I'll be glad to answer this
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 10:20 AM
Aug 2018

Because throwing up the Democratic Platform ad nauseam as proof of what constitutes the "Mainstream Democratic Party" is about as dishonest as a person can get. (Except to the extent that it shows "centrist Democrats" and "leftist Democrats" can get together in a room and come up with a document they will both sign, which, outside of here, really is what being a Democrat is all about). Centrist candidates' campaigns run away from the leftists provisions and leftist candidates' campaigns run away from the centrist provisions. It says nothing about what it means to be "establishment."

Before I go further I want to say something now. I am going to paste in Sharice Davids' policy positions from her website and they are long and I don't want this part of what I want to say to get lost because it is IMHO a million times more important than the incessant bullshit that goes on here. For reasons I will not state, because they actually are divisive, I will never support a centrist candidate in a primary. I did not support Sharice Davids in the primary. However, I started donating to her GE campaign through Bold PAC the morning after the primary. It is important for her to win not just because she is a Democrat but because she is symbolic of what I believe we should stand for as a party. Anyone who doesn't, now that the primary is over, needs to look seriously at why they do not.

That being said, I want to paste in her policy positions and repeat something I said earlier.

Sharice believes -
•The current Republican tax bill is a corporate giveaway and a handout to the wealthiest 1 percent of Americans.
•Worst yet, the tax bill saddles our future generations with a crippling financial burden and further in debts our country to foreign nations, such as China.
•Small businesses are the lifeblood of America and need to be front of mind when creating economic policy.
•Modernizing our aging infrastructure is necessary to maintain our communities and our economies. It would create thousands of jobs and provide a foundation for decades of future growth.

Sharice plans to -
•Fight for a true tax cut for the middle class.
•Incentivize health care benefits for small businesses and create a small business standard deduction to lower administrative costs.
•Create a childcare tax credit to help working families across America.
•Support efforts to increase broadband access, which is key to economic success in the modern economy.

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Sharice believes -
•Every student should have access to quality public education, regardless of their zip code, ability, or special needs.
•Supporting early childhood education and afterschool programs benefits families and gives children more opportunities to succeed.
•The cost of obtaining a college degree has skyrocketed and so has the likelihood of crushing student loans. We should be implementing policies that encourage and facilitate the opportunity for higher education.
•Students should be exposed to careers in trades and technical areas - skills that are vitally important to a robust economy.

Sharice plans to -
•Implement a holistic approach to education, focusing on access to quality public options from pre-K through secondary higher education and promoting strong, skills-based training programs.
•Prioritize access to public education and facilitate ways for Congress to partner with and support states in implementing robust K-12 systems. Sharice will work to support opportunities to hone technical skills through apprenticeships and partnerships with community colleges and trade schools.
•Support Head Start programs and ensure they are operating effectively. Sharice understands the importance of afterschool and summer programs for educational success, particularly in households where adults are working long hours to support their families.
•Support policies that enable people to refinance student loans at lower rates and make it easier to renegotiate a loan’s terms.
•Support initiatives such as loan forgiveness programs for those entering public service.

__________________

Sharice believes -
•We must demand more than condolences from our lawmakers. We need swift legislation to enact common sense gun safety laws.
•We can not allow legislators who accept millions of dollars from the gun rights lobby to continue risking the safety of our children and communities in exchange for campaign contributions.
•Guns do have their place. As part of a military family, Sharice recognizes that firearms have a role in society. That place is not in schools, in hospitals, in mental health facilities, or in the homes of domestic abusers.

Sharice plans to -
•Support a holistic approach to reducing gun violence and deaths in our country.
•Treat gun violence as a public health issue, allowing us to study it and regulate it as such.
•Never accept any campaign contributions or endorsements from the gun lobby.
•Support expanded background checks and higher standards for conceal-and-carry permits.


All of these are good policies but you'd be hard pressed to find a single Democrat, not even Joe Manchin or Heidi Heitkamp, who is to the right of Davids on any of the issues. Mind you, I think we should be proud of that fact BUT being no further left that Joe or Heidi is not being "progressive."

The reason we have a progressive wing and a centrist wing is because they disagree on policy. If folks want to have a debate on that outside of races where we have not already selected our candidate, that is fine, but to suggest that there is "something" that divides leftist and centrist Democrats OTHER than policy - as we see here - is a LIE, is going to destroy our party, and needs to stop.
AOC hits back at the MSM [View all] SkyDancer Aug 2018 OP
Really AOC? "Heavily Financed Opponants"? Wait a minute... Wwcd Aug 2018 #1
She's trying to rationalize her poor showing. "If you're explaining, you're losing". n/t Tarheel_Dem Aug 2018 #2
Why didn't she include the Stunning Win by Democrat Sharice Davids? Wwcd Aug 2018 #4
she didn't support her JI7 Aug 2018 #5
She didn't support the Dem with the most Progressive platform? Wwcd Aug 2018 #7
actual record of getting things done doesn't count JI7 Aug 2018 #8
Yup Wwcd Aug 2018 #10
What policies does Davids support SkyDancer Aug 2018 #9
Lol. "STANDARD DEMOCRAT"? Wwcd Aug 2018 #12
I know what the platform is SkyDancer Aug 2018 #13
You seem a bit argumentative for me, I have to put you on ignore Wwcd Aug 2018 #15
Asking a question is argumentative? SkyDancer Aug 2018 #16
Felt rather baiting, but maybe its just me.. Wwcd Aug 2018 #20
Here's Sharice Davids and Gretchen Whitmer.. Nothing "standard".. Cha Aug 2018 #21
+1 and a thanks Cha, for keeping it real at DU. oasis Aug 2018 #49
Sharice and Gretchen are High Standard! Catch Cha Aug 2018 #51
these and the following posts heaven05 Aug 2018 #75
There is a song stuck in my head ismnotwasm Aug 2018 #41
What policies do you think defines a candidate as "Progressive" that are not in the Squinch Aug 2018 #24
Isn't it obvious? The difference is BS dansolo Aug 2018 #29
I keep asking the question and getting no answer, so I think you're right. Squinch Aug 2018 #30
I'll be glad to answer this GaryCnf Aug 2018 #35
You say you'll answer the question, but you didn't do anything but restate Squinch Aug 2018 #36
Well let's talk about that GaryCnf Aug 2018 #39
With all respect ismnotwasm Aug 2018 #40
I enjoyed reading Pramila's policies GaryCnf Aug 2018 #42
Then WHAT ARE THEY???? Policy differences, not philosophy differences. WHAT ARE THEY? Squinch Aug 2018 #46
This is sophistry GaryCnf Aug 2018 #73
And still, you have named NO POLICY on which we differ. No matter what names you call me, Squinch Aug 2018 #74
And PS, WTF with the left field accusation that I have called leftists "mysogynists" and "racists?" Squinch Aug 2018 #76
How many? GaryCnf Aug 2018 #80
So noting sexism on DU when it was rampant constitutes accusing Squinch Aug 2018 #81
I took the two seconds GaryCnf Aug 2018 #85
And found me talking about rampant sexism, and decided I was accusing Squinch Aug 2018 #86
Echo echo echo GaryCnf Aug 2018 #87
Lol! Name a policy! Squinch Aug 2018 #88
PS. You STILL haven't named a POLICY. Squinch Aug 2018 #82
Oh I don't think she's a centrist at all ismnotwasm Aug 2018 #48
None of this constitutes differences in policy. Squinch Aug 2018 #43
"Standard" Democrats Chuck and Nancy. lapucelle Aug 2018 #69
We're called Democrats. There is no "standard" Democrat Wwcd Aug 2018 #14
Again SkyDancer Aug 2018 #17
Is there a Socialist caucaus? Wwcd Aug 2018 #19
Same type reason as why the DLC was created Tom Rinaldo Aug 2018 #22
very "standard" from one of the smaller heaven05 Aug 2018 #77
STANDARD DEMOCRAT betsuni Aug 2018 #23
I think "High Standard" describes Progressive women like Sharice Davids Cha Aug 2018 #26
Yes! betsuni Aug 2018 #28
My state governor, "standard Democrat" Andrew Cuomo is delivering on the $15 minimum wage lapucelle Aug 2018 #72
same policy Democrats have heaven05 Aug 2018 #55
"progressives" can't be "standard Democrats" or vice verca? ehrnst Aug 2018 #84
what are you talking about? most progressive platform in what way? Back that up. JCanete Aug 2018 #44
And why is she including the defeat of Prop A? lapucelle Aug 2018 #70
No. She's fighting back against the bullshit that is trying to bury left-wing progressives and put JCanete Aug 2018 #47
+1 betsuni Aug 2018 #3
I have no clue as to who wrote that comment from CNN Sherman A1 Aug 2018 #6
"commercials for Big Pharma" SkyDancer Aug 2018 #11
K & R Wwcd Aug 2018 #18
Take about 30 minutes and watch the sequence of events Sherman A1 Aug 2018 #25
Same here SkyDancer Aug 2018 #32
It is also heaven05 Aug 2018 #78
Yes. Listen to podcasts instead EndGOPPropaganda Aug 2018 #33
i dont want our party hijacked....we need to be on high alert for things that sound samnsara Aug 2018 #27
"Too good" SkyDancer Aug 2018 #31
+1 Sherman A1 Aug 2018 #34
You just illustrated the dishonest juxtapositions that R B Garr Aug 2018 #37
Her plan in 1993 definitely had supporters Power 2 the People Aug 2018 #52
There's more history to it than a picture from 1993. Easily Googleable info. nt R B Garr Aug 2018 #54
You're right. There was more to the picture Power 2 the People Aug 2018 #56
There's more to it than an anti-Hillary video, LOL. R B Garr Aug 2018 #57
I took your advice and looked for clarification on Google. Power 2 the People Aug 2018 #58
It's obvious your whole goal was to talk about me personally Power2thePeople. R B Garr Aug 2018 #59
Nice try.Sounds like the gumming up or pretzel twisting isn't being done by me. Power 2 the People Aug 2018 #60
There's more to it than a picture from 1993. It's obvious you don't know, but it's easily R B Garr Aug 2018 #61
You're being redundant RB. No use carrying on. Power 2 the People Aug 2018 #62
You obviously don't know the subject matter. That is why you are gumming R B Garr Aug 2018 #63
You obviously don't read your own posts. Power 2 the People Aug 2018 #64
You keep trying to pretend that one picture and a "thank you" is the entire history R B Garr Aug 2018 #65
Yawwwwwwwwwn Power 2 the People Aug 2018 #66
LOL, how childish, but not surprising. nt R B Garr Aug 2018 #67
Two Yutes? What is a yute? oberliner Aug 2018 #71
Our party. Try to remember that. There's no such thing as hijacking it. There's voters in JCanete Aug 2018 #45
Which one of her handlers fallout87 Aug 2018 #38
Which of her "handlers" SkyDancer Aug 2018 #50
Wrong on all counts. fallout87 Aug 2018 #79
I guess the MSM can't do math Power 2 the People Aug 2018 #53
+1 SkyDancer Aug 2018 #68
Corporate masters are EVERYWHERE... disillusioned73 Aug 2018 #83
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