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Crunchy Frog

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21. Yes, we wouldn't want to have a mess going on in our country.

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Thu Aug 23, 2018, 02:41 PM

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Robert Reich's proposal: ANNULMENT of Trump's presidency. [View all] Grasswire2 Aug 2018 OP

"The Constitution does not specifically provide for annulment...." mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2018 #1

We have to admit the Constitution is not perfect and fix it. brush Aug 2018 #24

There's a procedure for that. A few, actually, including one I'd rather not contemplate. NT mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2018 #26

I know it has to go thru state legislatures but we need to start raising the issue... brush Aug 2018 #33

You know,the Kochs are only a few states away from a constitutional WhiteTara Aug 2018 #112

Agree, it was written 231 years ago so the forefathers would not have been able to onetexan Aug 2018 #93

I know: we get to fix an amendment, they get to fix an amendmet. We don't need to "fix" the ... marble falls Aug 2018 #121

Fix, amend, adjust...whatever word choice we use we know the document... brush Aug 2018 #122

The Constitution did not say SCOTUS could pick wasupaloopa Aug 2018 #32

The Constitution does not say anything about same-sex marriage. mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2018 #34

...and they didn't brooklynite Aug 2018 #55

Not a problem. There are centuries of case law, SCOTUS decisions etc stopbush Aug 2018 #59

LOL. NO manor321 Aug 2018 #2

Post removed Post removed Aug 2018 #62

If you are referring to Reich, then yes and not the first time. grantcart Aug 2018 #80

Well... druidity33 Aug 2018 #107

For the rather obvious reason that using costitutional methods grantcart Aug 2018 #117

I think I was pretty clear... druidity33 Aug 2018 #120

Post removed Post removed Aug 2018 #109

+ struggle4progress Aug 2018 #91

I agree with this idea, but Quemado Aug 2018 #3

Yes, we wouldn't want to have a mess going on in our country. Crunchy Frog Aug 2018 #21

ha, ha, good one. triron Aug 2018 #37

Annulment is a very real possibility and it also hints at what would happen after Trump is indicted. underthematrix Aug 2018 #4

Annulment is not a very real possibility. It's total fiction. onenote Aug 2018 #123

We thought a Trump presidency... SergeStorms Aug 2018 #133

Not Really Cheviteau Aug 2018 #140

It's fiction because there is no "annulment" process in the constitution onenote Aug 2018 #143

I'm behind this 100%. ffr Aug 2018 #5

DITTO! BigmanPigman Aug 2018 #43

Are there limitations on what can be amended by constitutional amendment? Democrats_win Aug 2018 #6

through the amendment process almost anything is possible, including annulment unblock Aug 2018 #12

This... 2naSalit Aug 2018 #7

That statement isnt remotely true DetroitLegalBeagle Aug 2018 #25

Emotional response zipplewrath Aug 2018 #54

Yes, annulment is a fantasy. LuvNewcastle Aug 2018 #111

Thanks for the Republican Talking Point ignoring cheating, thievery, statistical voting abnormality bucolic_frolic Aug 2018 #66

Point out where any of that happened in the Electoral College DetroitLegalBeagle Aug 2018 #87

from whence do these magic Electors spring? Hermit-The-Prog Aug 2018 #134

thousands of shares and comments on his FB OP already Grasswire2 Aug 2018 #8

And if Grandma had balls, she'd be Grandpa. Dave Starsky Aug 2018 #9

It would provide an elegant and gracious solution to this madness cutroot Aug 2018 #10

Ignoring the obvious unconstitutional nature of this mythology Aug 2018 #11

Wishful thinking Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #13

One way or another it needs annulment. Gorsuch retracted & Kavanaugh denied would be a start. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2018 #14

Maybe indicting Trump would fast track to SCOTUS and this be the argument bigbrother05 Aug 2018 #15

Gorsuch should have to recuse himself at that point...nt 2naSalit Aug 2018 #27

Holding your breath for that to happen are you? WillowTree Aug 2018 #31

NO need for snark just because you don't agree...nt 2naSalit Aug 2018 #35

It's not a matter of not agreeing, and it's not a matter of snark. WillowTree Aug 2018 #47

Whatever. Have a nice day...nt 2naSalit Aug 2018 #125

if you had the votes, you could annul each action more directly. unblock Aug 2018 #16

It works for me. Vinca Aug 2018 #17

For me as well. calimary Aug 2018 #135

The country was defrauded. Courts have authority to enact remedies. I'd like to see Constitutional Cognitive_Resonance Aug 2018 #18

How was the Country defrauded? brooklynite Aug 2018 #48

I'm extrapolating a bit, but if you recall the Russian hackers indicted in February were charged Cognitive_Resonance Aug 2018 #85

Good idea. Crunchy Frog Aug 2018 #19

These suggestions of extra-constitutional ways to be rid of Trump get more hilarious all the time. WillowTree Aug 2018 #20

Never happen unless Democrats had a super-majority in both houses and a majority Nitram Aug 2018 #22

I'd bet money that it wouldn't even get past a Left-majority Supreme Court. WillowTree Aug 2018 #29

No, you're right. It's a silly idea. Nitram Aug 2018 #145

If it's not in the Constitution, it ain't happening. MineralMan Aug 2018 #23

After seeing one thread after another along these lines, I suspect that far too many DUers mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2018 #36

The people suggesting such stuff are not serious people who MineralMan Aug 2018 #45

Agreed Pacifist Patriot Aug 2018 #139

Even Donald Trump Nasruddin Aug 2018 #51

Kick dalton99a Aug 2018 #28

For the millionth time, it's not happening. bearsfootball516 Aug 2018 #30

Forget it, Jake; it's Chinatown. mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2018 #41

This is one of the more compelling arguments I've read on this subject. NurseJackie Aug 2018 #38

I think a more likely scenario is that Donald starts a war... Grasswire2 Aug 2018 #42

It may not happen, Mad-in-Mo Aug 2018 #39

We have to be realistic. cab67 Aug 2018 #40

Realistically, Nasruddin Aug 2018 #50

I don't disagree. cab67 Aug 2018 #115

I expect more sense from a former Cabinet official... brooklynite Aug 2018 #44

Yale Law, too. I looked it up. He really ought to know better. NT mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2018 #49

I agree duforsure Aug 2018 #46

Reich is Right Karadeniz Aug 2018 #52

The only way that Kavanaugh is not going to end up on the Supreme Court is mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2018 #53

Somebody suggested removing him by civil lawsuit FakeNoose Aug 2018 #56

Please cite the Constitutional passage that provides for this. WillowTree Aug 2018 #60

If the ACLU was dumb enough to,propose this, I'd cut off my financial support brooklynite Aug 2018 #82

Nothing would be more just than for... wundermaus Aug 2018 #57

Please cite the Constitutional passage that provides for this. WillowTree Aug 2018 #61

Since we have not crossed this bridge before... wundermaus Aug 2018 #84

And you think a Constitutional amendment could be drafted and passed before the 2020 election? WillowTree Aug 2018 #86

Dems have great ideas...and then Dems cripple each other with nit picking, Crutchez_CuiBono Aug 2018 #58

So you're saying you think the Constitution is a nit-pick? WillowTree Aug 2018 #65

I think i addressed that. Crutchez_CuiBono Aug 2018 #67

Where? WillowTree Aug 2018 #73

I made my "comment", This isnt a research site...its a discussion, take the good leave the bad Crutchez_CuiBono Aug 2018 #77

I always find it fascinating to watch. this thread itself is like a ping pong game - back and forth NRaleighLiberal Aug 2018 #69

Good Points. Don't know about annulment as GOP would still be in power (Congress). MarcA Aug 2018 #105

Although this is a huge stretch and will not happen but its does seem appropriate.. honest.abe Aug 2018 #63

This IS the CRUX of the matter!!! All Trump actions are illegitimate bucolic_frolic Aug 2018 #64

Because he was legally voted for by the electors. bearsfootball516 Aug 2018 #68

THere is no present mechanism to do something about that bucolic_frolic Aug 2018 #74

"We are not limited to what the Constitution permits, or to what it prohibits." Just.....shocking. WillowTree Aug 2018 #78

We aren't limited to what the Constitution permits? bearsfootball516 Aug 2018 #79

When you are not constrained by reality the solutions are unlimited inwiththenew Aug 2018 #70

"masturbatory fantasy"..........Gawd, that's sooooo appropriate! WillowTree Aug 2018 #75

Yes. Dopers_Greed Aug 2018 #71

I'm guessing something like this would require Liberalagogo Aug 2018 #72

Give that man an award. mysteryowl Aug 2018 #76

I agree The Liberal Lion Aug 2018 #81

don't forget the judges rolypolychloe Aug 2018 #83

How about we just arbitrarily change the Constitution? brooklynite Aug 2018 #88

This message was self-deleted by its author LanternWaste Aug 2018 #90

I'll listen to everyone pretending they know what they're talking about. LanternWaste Aug 2018 #89

If we can't impeach him...a well understood process fescuerescue Aug 2018 #92

"Overthrow and Revolution" sounds like what we've been experiencing for the last two years. FiveGoodMen Aug 2018 #94

In all seriousness no. fescuerescue Aug 2018 #132

Unless we're just in the early stages FiveGoodMen Aug 2018 #141

Almost as likely as ... PBC_Democrat Aug 2018 #95

Finally...a possible solution to a stolen election! But the S.Ct. won't allow it (Kavanaugh). nt Honeycombe8 Aug 2018 #96

NO PENCE! Not giving this guy a head start on 2020 elections. nt oasis Aug 2018 #97

Who would have the authority to declare it annulled? tclambert Aug 2018 #98

Wow. That's a whole lotta bullshit. Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2018 #99

Unfortunately, given the political sitation jimlup Aug 2018 #100

#AnnulmentNow for the sake of American democracy Achilleaze Aug 2018 #101

I recall annulment of a marriage House of Roberts Aug 2018 #102

Oh please vote humans!!!!! LakeArenal Aug 2018 #103

Pure fantasy, the constitution has what can be done, no such thing is possible and beachbum bob Aug 2018 #104

Best benefit would be no Pence in Oval Panich52 Aug 2018 #106

If only! If only we could reverse this stolen election and it's results. usaf-vet Aug 2018 #108

Let's just make things up as we go along proglib217 Aug 2018 #110

And I also want sarisataka Aug 2018 #113

yes!! TalenaGor Aug 2018 #114

Someone will bring suit on this next year bucolic_frolic Aug 2018 #116

Define a legal basis for a civil suit... brooklynite Aug 2018 #130

Who would have standing to sue? onenote Aug 2018 #144

Amen, erase this mess. Nt N_E_1 for Tennis Aug 2018 #118

I'm for trying it. It would be the quickest way to rid America of Trumps' illegal reign. nt ladjf Aug 2018 #119

And after this ridiculous "annulment" occurs (how?) who is president? onenote Aug 2018 #124

Good Idea Raphe M Aug 2018 #126

If/when Dems get control of Congress, demand such boldness. No more... Beartracks Aug 2018 #127

Yep StarzGuy Aug 2018 #128

YES!! karin_sj Aug 2018 #129

YES!!! lunamagica Aug 2018 #131

What does not authorized under the Constitution mean? MadDAsHell Aug 2018 #136

Trump said there's 2nd Amendment remedies. rickford66 Aug 2018 #137

Annul the presidency. Impeach the #TrumpJudges EndGOPPropaganda Aug 2018 #138

I like the idea and I like Reich coeur_de_lion Aug 2018 #142

K&R Scurrilous Aug 2018 #146