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Firebrand Gary

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59. Carville, who wrote "40 More Years" after President Obama's win
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 12:29 AM
Nov 2018

Mainly the book was based on how the Democratic Party would be in charge for the next 40 years. I saw his interview on MSNBC where he said that Beto needed to be a "winner" if he wanted to run for POTUS.

With all due respect to Mr. Carville, I thank him for his service and commitment to the party. It's time he steps aside and let the new generation take over-which means that I respectfully ask that he, along with any person in the party who's attempting to influence future strategy; step aside.

Beto demonstrated an uncanny ability to drive up numbers in RURAL areas, which is what we're going to need in the future. His "loss" which seeing how corrupt and morally bankrupt the GOP is; well let's say that I'm not sure Beto lost Texas, especially after looking at what's happening in Georgia and Florida.

Beto's "loss" was anything but, and Republicans know it.

As for someone running for POTUS after losing a Senate election, it's been done before.

1858 Abraham Lincoln lost a US Senate Election in Illinois, TWO YEARS LATER he became the 16th President of the United States!

Ari Melber did a great segment with lots of data supporting spooky3 Nov 2018 #1
Ari did a great job. He's the one guy I watch religiously. dem4decades Nov 2018 #5
May I interject? Here's another proof of a huge blue wave: DemocracyMouse Nov 2018 #53
An anecdote supporting that--I'm in a very blue district and not only did spooky3 Nov 2018 #55
He has been tweeting clips and his graph that I finally got! BumRushDaShow Nov 2018 #13
Thanks! spooky3 Nov 2018 #14
It would have been 60 seats without gerrymandering. dem4decades Nov 2018 #57
+1 uponit7771 Nov 2018 #28
Yep Hav Nov 2018 #2
Check this link out! Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #4
I think a lot of people were concerned. David__77 Nov 2018 #3
Thank you. Agree. The media runs this country. zonkers Nov 2018 #6
Add Michael Moore To That List Me. Nov 2018 #7
Haha.. Moore didn't Cha Nov 2018 #11
What A Phoney Baloney Me. Nov 2018 #12
WORSE! Cha Nov 2018 #19
... Me. Nov 2018 #26
He is a has-been celebrity activist LakeArenal Nov 2018 #38
.. Cha Nov 2018 #45
I think Rebl2 Nov 2018 #37
Definitely and the M$M like Cha Nov 2018 #43
+++ agree. Moore was such a Debbie Downer in late days of election that I tuned him out. iluvtennis Nov 2018 #58
What is his Cha Nov 2018 #63
Not sure Cha. I just don't like it when Dems go on TV and speak negatively about other Dems iluvtennis Nov 2018 #64
Exactly! We do this together.. No Dissing Dems! Cha Nov 2018 #65
MM can piss off. He thinks only Michelle Obama John Fante Nov 2018 #77
Moore now predicts that Democrats can't win against Trump in 2020 if they run a politician. betsuni Nov 2018 #17
BS "couldn't see a blue wave" either.. Cha Nov 2018 #24
Oh, sorry, I will edit to make it clear. betsuni Nov 2018 #34
lol.. Cha Nov 2018 #42
Lucky you! betsuni Nov 2018 #44
Thank You, betsuni.. Cha Nov 2018 #61
Are They Different? Me. Nov 2018 #50
.. Cha Nov 2018 #62
I heard him say that bdamomma Nov 2018 #29
Doesn't make sense, I agree. betsuni Nov 2018 #39
Shattered Me. Nov 2018 #31
Lots of talking heads and politicians trying to catch the big blue bus GulfCoast66 Nov 2018 #41
MM was just on Lawrence O's show amuse bouche Nov 2018 #54
Finally! A positive post about Michael Moore to which I can respond! I also hostalover Nov 2018 #70
I hate it too. shanny Nov 2018 #76
Fucking media****** TOOLS! Cha Nov 2018 #8
Sadly, depsite the hard #'s , the effect of their early false calls will still mute any popular zonkers Nov 2018 #9
Is is partially our fault for listening to predictions so early in the night. nt USALiberal Nov 2018 #10
Some of us followed 538 and called it for Dems malaise Nov 2018 #22
Well, not really. At one point Nate had chance Dems win house in the 36% range...... USALiberal Nov 2018 #25
Yeah jcgoldie Nov 2018 #27
LOL, me too! I was freaking out. Learned a lesson though! nt USALiberal Nov 2018 #30
JCGoldie, that's so hilarious as I was pissed HBO was off my DISH too for the same reason!! BluegrassDem Nov 2018 #32
All the doom and gloom early on mcar Nov 2018 #15
It got so gloomy I stopped watching coverage when I saw that "Galaxy Quest" was on TV. betsuni Nov 2018 #40
When we did not convincingly win Florida and Georgia GulfCoast66 Nov 2018 #16
I was a blue wave by any measure. SunSeeker Nov 2018 #18
Carville was a huge factor on dumpy a bucket of ice water on all us, election night. Wintryjade Nov 2018 #20
Carville was on his... LovingA2andMI Nov 2018 #36
AKA the 50 state strategy. GulfCoast66 Nov 2018 #46
I see. Thanks. Wintryjade Nov 2018 #49
What is centrist in one state or district is not the same in another. LiberalFighter Nov 2018 #79
Tonight is our election night! tandem5 Nov 2018 #21
Yes...but... Duppers Nov 2018 #23
George W said SCantiGOP Nov 2018 #33
And what about the caravan. c-rational Nov 2018 #35
On to 2020!! workinclasszero Nov 2018 #47
Where did you see this, workingclasszero ? Haggis for Breakfast Nov 2018 #52
I did a google search on blue wave 2020. This image of a pin popped up. Pretty sure it's buyable workinclasszero Nov 2018 #66
found something xxqqqzme Nov 2018 #75
Ah-ha-ha-ha-ha-haaaa... Wipeout!! Beartracks Nov 2018 #74
And that whole CNN video bit was another sleight of hand. C Moon Nov 2018 #48
I didn't expect we would pick up this many seats elmac Nov 2018 #51
Michael Moore was just on Lawrence O'Donnell and he said BigmanPigman Nov 2018 #56
I saw that interview. Michael Moore was very impressive. He is thrilled with the election results! hostalover Nov 2018 #71
It is the biggest blue wave since Nixon and he is right... BigmanPigman Nov 2018 #72
Absolutely! hostalover Nov 2018 #73
Carville, who wrote "40 More Years" after President Obama's win Firebrand Gary Nov 2018 #59
No shit TheRealNorth Nov 2018 #60
Trump is right. Fake News. zonkers Nov 2018 #67
Sorry Trumper, it's a blue wave, and it will carry over John Fante Nov 2018 #78
Better late than never? lillypaddle Nov 2018 #68
And you know on the Sunday talk shows they will have only repukes on discussing how the kimbutgar Nov 2018 #69
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