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MineralMan

(146,302 posts)
24. When an employer tells you, "Sorry. I can't pay you this month,"
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 03:16 PM
Jan 2019

it's time to start looking for a new job. Businesses that can't make payroll will soon be bankrupt. The answer to that statement should always be, "Sorry, then I can't work for you. I work for my paycheck. If you don't pay me, I don't work for you. It's that simple."

As someone who has been working freelance for almost 50 years, I've heard that crap from people I've delivered my work product a number of times. It goes something like this: "Say, I'm still waiting for a check from one of my clients, so I can't pay you for that article I published." That's what they always say. I always say this:

"Look. You gave me an assignment. You liked my work. You published it. Pay me as we agreed. Now! If you don't, I will not only not produce work for you in the future, but I will also inform my network of others who write for a living and let them know to be careful about working for you."

I always got paid right away. There is no excuse for not paying someone for work they have done for you. No excuse at all. Workers contract with employers. They work. The employer pays. Failure to pay results in no further work. It is a very simple equation, but one that workers have to stick to. Every last freaking time.

The federal employees who are not getting checks for a previous pay period should simply not show up until they do. That's guaranteed to get people's attention. If all TSA workers walked off, along with the air traffic controllers, and every other federal employee who is not being paid for actual work, it would be the headline in every news outlet.

Pay up, Feds! Pay up, or we don't work. That's called a "Job Action." If threatened with being fired, you simply say, "Fired? From a job where I don't get paid? Really?" There are no replacement workers. Air traffic controllers require extensive training. TSA agents require training, too. If everyone walks, there's nobody to replace them and it all shuts down. That's the power of labor.

Not really, but I get your point. EffieBlack Jan 2019 #1
OK, It's slavery lite. shockey80 Jan 2019 #3
I worked yesterday morning. Igel Jan 2019 #5
No, it's not EffieBlack Jan 2019 #7
I will not take it back. shockey80 Jan 2019 #9
Then you are making a conscious choice to appear ill-informed and offensive EffieBlack Jan 2019 #11
I totally agree. Another small point is they will be paid. Congress approved it. mucifer Jan 2019 #28
Very offensive, and worst degrading acts performed on human beings HipChick Jan 2019 #13
A slave works for no pay and has no choice in the work brooklynite Jan 2019 #18
I agree with you. Don't take it back. It is a form of slavery and one that trump likes. demigoddess Jan 2019 #26
Don't double down, dude. nt Codeine Jan 2019 #41
They'll be paid later, Codeine Jan 2019 #2
Not even close. It's bad and it can get worse but it's not slavery. Solly Mack Jan 2019 #4
You can do better than this. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2019 #6
None of the federal employees are being forced to work. Mariana Jan 2019 #8
I am tired of Americans being sheep. shockey80 Jan 2019 #12
The fact that you feel you had the option to "go nuts on them" highlights EffieBlack Jan 2019 #14
Jesus fucking Christ. Codeine Jan 2019 #42
I know, right? cwydro Jan 2019 #56
Seems that some people have bought the lie that slavery was based on economic exploitation EffieBlack Jan 2019 #16
Never underestimate the ability to be Codeine Jan 2019 #43
Ridiculous comparison and deeply offensive. cwydro Jan 2019 #10
Slavery has nothing sarisataka Jan 2019 #15
Exactly EffieBlack Jan 2019 #17
You will not change my mind. shockey80 Jan 2019 #19
I'll try one more time ... EffieBlack Jan 2019 #22
But they're going to be paid. Codeine Jan 2019 #45
No not true TheFarseer Jan 2019 #20
If you are actually forced to work without pay - you might get to slavery light (e.g. imprisonment). Ms. Toad Jan 2019 #21
There are different forms of slavery. shockey80 Jan 2019 #23
As numerous people have told you, that is extremely insulting Ms. Toad Jan 2019 #30
You're being fucking ridiculous. Codeine Jan 2019 #48
When an employer tells you, "Sorry. I can't pay you this month," MineralMan Jan 2019 #24
Thank you. shockey80 Jan 2019 #25
I've been my own boss most of my adult life. MineralMan Jan 2019 #27
What does this have to do with federal government employees being furloughed? EffieBlack Jan 2019 #29
Or to the absurd allegation that furloughed employees are slaves. n/t Ms. Toad Jan 2019 #31
Not a damn thing. SaschaHM Jan 2019 #33
Uh...everything. MineralMan Jan 2019 #32
I assume, then, you also believe in No work No pay EffieBlack Jan 2019 #34
I'm not talking about furloughed workers. I'm talking about workers MineralMan Jan 2019 #36
I know exactly what you were talking about EffieBlack Jan 2019 #39
They will be paid if Congress passes a measure to pay them and the MineralMan Jan 2019 #46
Congress already passed a bill guaranteeing their pay EffieBlack Jan 2019 #51
I can't organize anything that would have any impact. MineralMan Jan 2019 #52
In other words, it's someone else's responsibility EffieBlack Jan 2019 #57
We're both sitting in front of a computer or other device this afternoon, MineralMan Jan 2019 #58
Yes, we are EffieBlack Jan 2019 #59
What if you had only 1 year to go to make 20 years and access retirement funds without penalty? Nictuku Jan 2019 #35
I'd have to consider that, of course. MineralMan Jan 2019 #37
We need to elect leaders who protect retirement contracts (for all workers) Nictuku Jan 2019 #38
Of course. That's a different issue, though. MineralMan Jan 2019 #40
If they did that, then why would anyone ever work for the Government? Nictuku Jan 2019 #44
That is a very, very good question. MineralMan Jan 2019 #47
That is also a big problem with the shutdown Nictuku Jan 2019 #49
they have the choice to leave that job and work somewhere else JI7 Jan 2019 #50
Most people have the option to quit, so it's not slavery. rsdsharp Jan 2019 #53
Yea it sucks fescuerescue Jan 2019 #54
Some things strike me as I read these posts. dameatball Jan 2019 #55
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