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MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
16. The movement from full service to self service has taken a long time
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 10:51 AM
Mar 2019

in the retail industry. But, the transition is inexorable. Very few of us remember how stores worked in the early years of the 20th century. Back then, you came in, asked for what you wanted, and someone went and got it for you from the dark shelves in the store. It was brought to the cash wrap or service counter, where you could inspect it and either accept it or ask for something else.

This was true in department stores, grocery stores, hardware stores, and almost everywhere else. Customers did not wander around, looking for what they wanted. They got personal service for their requests.

When you paid for your purchases, your money was sent to a cashier elsewhere in the store, using various methods, ranging from a page who ran your money there, to pneumatic tubes which carried it to the cashier. The front of the store personnel were not allowed to make change, provide receipts or do much of anything else. It was a matter of trust, I suppose.

That all changed fairly early in the 20th century. Stores began to display goods on shelves to allow customers to seek out and select their own goods. Why? To cut down on the number of employees, of course. Next, the remote cashier was eliminated and your transaction was completed at the cash-wrap counter. Again, this reduced the number of employees.

Once you had made a purchase, in the olden days, you could have it delivered to your home, where your household servants would accept the goods. Then, as self-service stores advanced, this was replaced by either the cash-wrap employee or another worker bagging your purchase in a bag that advertised the store. As grocery stores became supermarkets, some discount supermarkets stopped bagging customers' purchases, relegating that task to the customer as well. Again, fewer employees for greater profits and competitive pricing.

Now, the self-checkout system promises to eliminate the cashier altogether, giving the customer the job of tallying purchases and dealing with payment, using either paper money or plastic debit or credit cards. The systems to do this are still imperfect, and everyone who goes through the self-check lines has experienced issues. So, the store stations an employee to monitor several check-outs to deal with those problems. Again reducing the number of employees is the goal, making the customers, once again, work for the store with each purchase.

What's next? Well, the new Amazon stores don't even have checkout counters or cash-wrap stations. You come in, pick up what you want, and it is automatically charged to your account. You needn't interact with store employees at all in this new wave of self-service technology. Someone is, no doubt, watching over the store, perhaps from a remote security station, and you're being recorded on video at all times, but hey, it's fast, easy and you needn't even look at anyone if you don't want to.

We've all been trained, over the years, to accept more and more of the responsibility of serving ourselves. For a while, we miss the guy in the service station who used to pump our gas, wash our windows, and check our tires and oil. But, we got used to it, for the most part. We miss the baggers at the supermarket, but we got used to it. We've even been trained to like this new self-service system.

Soon, and even now, we won't have to go to the store at all. We can plug in our electric car in the garage and do all our shopping on our smart phones. Just click the Buy Now! button, and a vehicle will come to your door very soon and drop off what you bought. No need to leave your home. No need to go out of doors. No need to interact with other people. What joy, eh?

allow businesses to replace cashiers with machines HAB911 Mar 2019 #1
In California they passed a law Mr.Bill Mar 2019 #76
Can't check IDs yet SoCalNative Mar 2019 #80
They have self checkouts at every store I visit. There is a checker stationed there. Tipperary Mar 2019 #82
Yes, that's one way to do it. Mr.Bill Mar 2019 #84
When there is only automated checkout I always ask for help delisen Mar 2019 #101
Most of this automation put the labor onto the customer! treestar Mar 2019 #90
I piss my wife off sometimes HAB911 Mar 2019 #93
Charming. WillowTree Mar 2019 #117
If I am nothing else, I'm charming HAB911 Mar 2019 #122
Our local Target store has only self checkout early in the morning spinbaby Mar 2019 #2
Because the one person can cover 4 checkout stations. It works great at my target, nt USALiberal Mar 2019 #6
At that hour, they don't have four people checking out spinbaby Mar 2019 #29
I always use a real cashier if no line, it is easier. nt USALiberal Mar 2019 #33
Even when there are lines, which there always are, I use a real cashier. Cassidy Mar 2019 #69
I absolutely homegirl Mar 2019 #75
Weird how it takes longer and is more invasive when I use a teller at PNC. Ligyron Mar 2019 #97
What's with the self checkout hate? It is easier. PTWB Mar 2019 #106
It sucks on all levels. Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2019 #3
+1 happybird Mar 2019 #104
I like it...... USALiberal Mar 2019 #4
I don't love it, but it's usually faster. A friend uploads Hortensis Mar 2019 #41
Before grocery carts were invented mercuryblues Mar 2019 #81
Don't know. Far fewer jobs, no matter how they're designed, Hortensis Mar 2019 #91
Here is a cute story about that. Scarsdale Mar 2019 #51
LOL, that is great! nt USALiberal Mar 2019 #120
There won't even be self checkout in the future madville Mar 2019 #5
So if someone gets ahold of your phone,they can clean out the store? MichMan Mar 2019 #7
No different if they took your wallet and Credit Card. nt USALiberal Mar 2019 #9
It's done partly with facial recognition madville Mar 2019 #10
Our Giant grocery store iamateacher Mar 2019 #8
Because she only has to do that one item! nt USALiberal Mar 2019 #11
I hate self checkout. marble falls Mar 2019 #12
Totally agree. EOM TruckFump Mar 2019 #22
Don't use it. See it as an affront to having employes and customers doing the work to save notdarkyet Mar 2019 #26
I do not use it. Just one of the many reasons I won't shop Walmart. marble falls Mar 2019 #40
Walmart was having people arrested for their self check out not working properly. Oppaloopa Mar 2019 #88
It's been a while since we had one of these let's go back 100 years thread when it worked better. madinmaryland Mar 2019 #13
And there is no stopping it and we should not try to. nt USALiberal Mar 2019 #15
Did you ever stop and think about how all this 'progress' just might be the underlying cause sinkingfeeling Mar 2019 #31
This! Stinky The Clown Mar 2019 #68
Agree and thank you. Oppaloopa Mar 2019 #89
The stores near me that have self-checkout always have lots of cashiers working as well LongtimeAZDem Mar 2019 #14
The movement from full service to self service has taken a long time MineralMan Mar 2019 #16
I remember going to the gas station panader0 Mar 2019 #53
I worked in a gas station like that. MineralMan Mar 2019 #79
Even past that Eko Mar 2019 #118
Personally, I'd rather be an employee who makes, maintains, trouble-shoots, installs, etc., robots Hoyt Mar 2019 #17
I don't know how old you are; I turned 60 my last birthday. PatrickforO Mar 2019 #44
Well, we could always stop technological advances. Of course, there would be even more people Hoyt Mar 2019 #57
It isn't a zero sum game MichMan Mar 2019 #62
You're misreading me as a luddite. PatrickforO Mar 2019 #107
I'm sure most people feel that way. However, there will be fewer of those jobs than the more menial Sapient Donkey Mar 2019 #119
It's not just "automation", it's shifting the burden of work onto the customer. eppur_se_muova Mar 2019 #18
+1 treestar Mar 2019 #92
When was the last time anyone demanded that an operator place a phone call? brooklynite Mar 2019 #19
Around 1974. PatrickforO Mar 2019 #38
Exactly obamanut2012 Mar 2019 #70
My wife. Cold War Spook Mar 2019 #115
Yesterday it took me 10 minutes to get two beverages at a McDonalds Generic Brad Mar 2019 #20
And if you use cash, you need the employee... Phentex Mar 2019 #59
Their new system is atrocious. Ms. Toad Mar 2019 #83
Late at night only automated checkout is available in most stores here, and the tblue37 Mar 2019 #21
Our Giant does that...grrr Freddie Mar 2019 #27
I love it. tymorial Mar 2019 #23
It is absolutely great for those few-items-at-a-time trips. Iggo Mar 2019 #45
I definitely do not disagree with you regarding a full cart. tymorial Mar 2019 #48
I like self checkout. Kaleva Mar 2019 #24
I use self-check out because they don't train the baggers how to bag groceries. CrispyQ Mar 2019 #25
Or they distribute the frozen foods into bags with room temperature items milestogo Mar 2019 #65
I love it when I don't have much stuff. Gets me in and out quick nt Quixote1818 Mar 2019 #28
Kroger had a deal on 24 pack soft drinks. House of Roberts Mar 2019 #30
I never use it but 90% of my shopping is at local family businesses that don't have Self-Checkout nt yaesu Mar 2019 #32
I like self-checkouts but I wish more stores had them with long conveyer belts. I like bagging Luciferous Mar 2019 #34
telephone bots barbtries Mar 2019 #35
Well, I simply cannot resist this teachable moment :) PatrickforO Mar 2019 #36
Well said. paleotn Mar 2019 #39
Good post! bluestarone Mar 2019 #43
Excellent post underpants Mar 2019 #56
+++++++++++ HAB911 Mar 2019 #95
Yes! Duppers Mar 2019 #111
Yogurt standard packaging was originally 8 ounces Wednesdays Mar 2019 #121
Sorry, but self checkout doesn't make my life worse.... paleotn Mar 2019 #37
Same here. trev Mar 2019 #94
Self checkout is easy to defeat SHRED Mar 2019 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Mar 2019 #72
Better lawyer up! They will have you on video if you try and sneak out with even a pack of bubble g madinmaryland Mar 2019 #73
If I use the self-checkout mac56 Mar 2019 #46
Funny I do take an employee discount on organis if I use self checkout. underpants Mar 2019 #49
exactly, I want compensation for my labor HAB911 Mar 2019 #96
I'll admit I use it (if I don't got to the customer service desk) really just to be nice underpants Mar 2019 #47
I prefer the self-check out....don't have to deal with cashier asking me where I got something HipChick Mar 2019 #50
This message was self-deleted by its author Huffleprecious Mar 2019 #52
Every generation will have its Luddites that refuse to move on Tarc Mar 2019 #54
Automation and AI are realities and will only get more advanced and more pervasive. Blue_true Mar 2019 #55
Disagree about having people assigned to a machine MichMan Mar 2019 #67
A vending machine isn't at the level that I envision, not even remotely. Blue_true Mar 2019 #113
And don't forget the fossil fuel industry getting us to pump our own gas. jalan48 Mar 2019 #58
We did that not them. EX500rider Mar 2019 #108
True, we did put a lot of mom and pops out of business because they couldn't sell the cheaper gas. jalan48 Mar 2019 #109
I like it. I don't like having all my items crushed into bags that don't make sense. we can do it Mar 2019 #60
I'd like it a lot better if it actually worked. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2019 #61
I still wind up needing a person 90% of the time, anyway. Stupid. GoCubsGo Mar 2019 #63
I always use self checkout when I don't have a full basket of stuff. Much faster and more efficient. Nitram Mar 2019 #64
" Unexpected item in the bagging area" California_Republic Mar 2019 #66
Self-Checkout doesn't make my life worse Politicub Mar 2019 #71
Stores will not open 10 items or less lanes AwakeAtLast Mar 2019 #74
Stores have always hated those low # of item lanes. Mr.Bill Mar 2019 #77
I love 'em - and my kid NEEDS them Blue_Adept Mar 2019 #78
As long as it is the belt type register - Ms. Toad Mar 2019 #85
I avoid them because they can't cope with a backpack as the "bag you provide yourself" muriel_volestrangler Mar 2019 #86
I'm so old, I remember when the cashier would empty your grocery cart for you. OMGWTF Mar 2019 #87
I prefer self-checkout Maeve Mar 2019 #98
A look ahead to the year 2039: mac56 Mar 2019 #99
The strange thing is... jmowreader Mar 2019 #100
I never use them. dawg day Mar 2019 #102
I'm a fan, due to the speed and the fact I'm able to bag my groceries with less plastic... VarryOn Mar 2019 #103
Eh I like it. Loki Liesmith Mar 2019 #105
Self checkout is corporate greed in the flesh JCMach1 Mar 2019 #110
Sherlock had a scene with Watson having a "row" with the self checkout machine. suffragette Mar 2019 #112
the plan is to do away with checkouts entirely JI7 Mar 2019 #114
We use self-checkout because it is better than waiting in line. Cold War Spook Mar 2019 #116
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