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machoneman

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11. Yes, the mere size in girth let alone length...
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 10:17 AM
Apr 2019

precludes using real oak for the ceiling cross beams. Heck, even the wooden cross-walk up there was made of huge oak slabs cut lengthwise.

I've always marveled at the many USA based Mountain and West Coast resorts/eateries that were either built in the 1800's or had later re-purposed old and giant pieces of wood into ceilings and the like. All show exposed, soaring and magnificent rafters and cross-pieces. These trees (extremely large) though no longer exist IMO in Canada or the US.

The French will need to consider using steel, aluminum or maybe even some kind of carbon fiber for the new roof supports. I wonder too if they will use lead again for the roof 'shingles' not only due to modern environmental concerns (leeching of lead into ground water) but also the estimated 210 metric ton weight, as reported. Modern fireproof materials, far lighter and easier to obtain, could replace lead. Likewise the cross-walk, also hidden from view, could be re-made out of aluminum to lighten the load on the side walls, already weakened 80 years into the original construction, which lead to the brilliant use of the flying buttresses to solidify the walls.

Btw, I'll add that the carbon fiber (CF) idea isn't wild at all. The French Airbus conglomerate slready makes huge CF wings for the latest Airbus jet passenger planes quite closeby. That and another firm that makes equally huge blades for wind powered windmills.

This is just gut wrenching! lark Apr 2019 #1
It's uplifiting, really. JayhawkSD Apr 2019 #2
too fresh, too raw... We'll get to this realization, surely, but for now it feels a bit like hlthe2b Apr 2019 #3
Not so fast... Wounded Bear Apr 2019 #15
There's not enough old Oak trees in all of Europe to use....will need metal Rene Apr 2019 #4
Yes, the mere size in girth let alone length... machoneman Apr 2019 #11
This Twitter thread suggests they are prepared to rebuild blaze Apr 2019 #13
I wonder if anyone will think to offer American oak to the French for the restoration. Aristus Apr 2019 #14
I know the US has the oak Amishman Apr 2019 #20
No. Just no. GoCubsGo Apr 2019 #23
Our forests are growing, not shrinking hack89 Apr 2019 #24
And, you are still losing 24.000 acres per year GoCubsGo Apr 2019 #25
Forested or Tree Farmed? Dyedinthewoolliberal Apr 2019 #26
Forested in New England hack89 Apr 2019 #28
This is what the stained glass looked like in the top row above the altar mnhtnbb Apr 2019 #5
The process of making some of those colors has been lost Recursion Apr 2019 #7
Many workers also died of lead poisoning in the process dalton99a Apr 2019 #9
Not just lead... Wounded Bear Apr 2019 #16
Yes that's true FakeNoose Apr 2019 #12
Not all the windows are there. That's why I posted the before photo mnhtnbb Apr 2019 #18
They do appear to be gone. JayhawkSD Apr 2019 #21
They are the biggest lose IMO. GulfCoast66 Apr 2019 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author jmbar2 Apr 2019 #6
Heartbreaking. redstatebluegirl Apr 2019 #8
That image - with the cross so clearly delineated- calimary Apr 2019 #10
At least one firefighter was badly injured IronLionZion Apr 2019 #17
no picture. broken link n t msongs Apr 2019 #22
I think its going to be okay........ Historic NY Apr 2019 #27
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