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3catwoman3

(23,985 posts)
36. Pediatric nurse practitioner here, with 43 years.
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 07:12 PM
Apr 2019

..in the trenches. I will offer you what I call my “Fever 101” lecture (pun intended). I have given this information to worried parents more times than I can count in my now lengthy career.

First point - fever, in and of itself, is seldom dangerous. The 2 times that it is are not related to infection, which is quite fascinating. Those 2 times are heat stroke and malignant hyperthermia, which is a bad reaction to an anaesthetic gases. There are dangerous illnesses accompanied by fever, but it is the illneses that are dangerous, not the fever.

Second point - fever has benefits. It slows down germ growth and speeds up white blood cell production. There is thinking among immunologists and infectious disease docs that over-management of fever may result in illnesses lasting longer because we are interfering with the body’s attempt to heal itself.

Third point - the goal of fever management is to bring the temp down enough to feel more comfortable, but not necessarily down to normal. We want the fever to do its work, but not to feel miserable while it does.

Fourth point - 102 is NOT high in a young child. 104 is. Someone above gave the excellent information that her pediatrician said behavior is always a huge factor. That is absolutely correct. If kids are what I call “hot and happy,” it is perfectly OK to just watch. Intervene when they get cranky. Fever reducers usually start Wednesday raking in abut 30 minutes.

Fifth point - Tylenol can be dosed at 4-6 hour intervals, and Motrin at 6-8. I would not recommend giving Motrin every 4 hours. The using both approach has rather fallen out of favor as there is potential for overdosing, and advising the use of two agents adds to fever phobia, making the situation sound so dire that a single medication is not enough. It is sometimes still recommended for fever of 105 or for kids prone to febrile seizures. Not for 102. Febrile seizures occur in about 4% of kids, and are scary but, happily, usually do not cause harm.

Sixth point - if a child perks up on either Tylenol or Motrin, that is very reassuring. If there is a serious diagnosis like meningitis, over-thecounter fever reducers ain’t gonna do it.

Your niece’s situation sounds well within typical illness patterns. Fevers can lead up to 5 days before peds folks start to worry that we need to do a lot of investigating, as long as the child continues to perk up when the fever reducer is given. count 24 hour periods from onset of symptoms, not the names of the days of the week. A child who develops a fever at 10 PM on a Monday night has not had a fever for 3 days at noon on Wednesday - not yet 48 hours. It is important to count properly, so as not to worry too soon that something has lasted too long.

This message was self-deleted by its author NightWatcher Apr 2019 #1
She's up and her usual active self Siwsan Apr 2019 #5
She may have some protection, but no guarantees, Ilsa Apr 2019 #8
I'm keeping in close touch Siwsan Apr 2019 #13
My pediatrician always said their behavior was the key thing. pnwmom Apr 2019 #21
I read it wrong, sorry. I took it to mean you thought she had measles already. NightWatcher Apr 2019 #25
I know you meant well! Siwsan Apr 2019 #27
That sounds like a good idea. NightWatcher Apr 2019 #35
THAT would be madness, if she doesn't want to destroy her relationship pnwmom Apr 2019 #20
Yep, vaccinations don't prevent fevers. Iggo Apr 2019 #23
Thank you! Siwsan Apr 2019 #24
Alternate between Tylenol and Motrin every four hours. If needed, a cool bath. Stay hydrated. TheBlackAdder Apr 2019 #2
I just got off of the phone, with her Siwsan Apr 2019 #9
Reiki? Codeine Apr 2019 #12
102 fever? Codeine Apr 2019 #3
I'm going to mention the children's Tylenol Siwsan Apr 2019 #7
I've no issue with that. Codeine Apr 2019 #11
Has she called the pediatrician? Big Blue Marble Apr 2019 #4
They are visiting from out of town. Siwsan Apr 2019 #6
Well febrile seizures are pretty scary MissB Apr 2019 #10
Her fever is starting to go down Siwsan Apr 2019 #14
I echo calling the pediatrician. While vaccine preventable disease like measles is an issue, odds hlthe2b Apr 2019 #15
102 is not really dangerous for a 3 year old. honest.abe Apr 2019 #16
She is monitoring and said the temp has gone down by over a degree Siwsan Apr 2019 #17
Usually add one degree, roughly, to Ilsa Apr 2019 #18
I agree Edim Apr 2019 #19
Thank you. Yes. n/t pnwmom Apr 2019 #22
102 for a 3 year old is not a big deal on its own Renew Deal Apr 2019 #26
I think I'm just hyper reactive, due to her lack of vaccinations Siwsan Apr 2019 #28
I would be disturbed about the vaccine situation too Renew Deal Apr 2019 #29
Take her to the hospital. Get her vaccinated. shenmue Apr 2019 #30
The fever has abated Siwsan Apr 2019 #31
Okay. shenmue Apr 2019 #32
My girlfriends oldest daughter is a semi-anti vaxer. From what I gather, she gets her ideas on what brewens Apr 2019 #33
Yikes! Siwsan Apr 2019 #34
Pediatric nurse practitioner here, with 43 years. 3catwoman3 Apr 2019 #36
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