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In reply to the discussion: I think if we need to wait for bipartisanship before impeaching [View all]uponit7771
(90,335 posts)69. Of course she's not alone, I don't think she has 100% agreement though and the case
... against impeachment is falling apart.
We'll see, at some point the stonewalling by the KGOP is going to get fever pitch and the "we can't do nothin" isn't going to fly anymore.
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+1, lying to congress during impeachment process nets greater consequences than just a slap on hand
uponit7771
Apr 2019
#64
Then don't move for conviction or removal, use impeachment to stop the stone walling & lying
uponit7771
Apr 2019
#45
Impeachment process negates KGOP stonewalling and ability to lock folk up who lie to congress
uponit7771
Apr 2019
#22
This is false on its face, and we don't have to move to convict or for removal. I don't know
uponit7771
Apr 2019
#43
No, just harder for KGOP to stonewall and lie to congress without consequences
uponit7771
Apr 2019
#52
I disagree the pay off is tiny, sending these bastards to jail for lying to congress after ....
uponit7771
Apr 2019
#57
So what do you think the difference is between Schiff chairing inquiries
Pope George Ringo II
Apr 2019
#94
It would probably help to stop announcing things as "failed" before they happen
Mr Tibbs
Apr 2019
#100
+1, 80% of Americans want to see the Full Mueller Report 90% of KGOPs want to hide it
uponit7771
Apr 2019
#41
A good rule to follow is to do the right thing. If a president is corrupt, destroys departments
Karadeniz
Apr 2019
#8
Exactly. Unfortunately, too many people are scared about shit that might never happen.
mtnsnake
Apr 2019
#20
+1, Red Don will never even be as popular with democrats as Clinton was with indies and republicans
uponit7771
Apr 2019
#65
"The math" is the end goal, not the requirement for starting impeachment. Nt
Fiendish Thingy
Apr 2019
#10
As many times as access to process to be explained to you ... you've been busy, hmmmmm
uponit7771
Apr 2019
#24
Of course she's not alone, I don't think she has 100% agreement though and the case
uponit7771
Apr 2019
#69
This is false, we do have the votes to impeach. We don't have the votes to convict and remove ...
uponit7771
Apr 2019
#82
Journalists, authors , teevee ppl. and yes bloggers (but not anonymous) also say you're wrong.
Kurt V.
Apr 2019
#36
+1, hinging impeachment off of bipartisanship isn't a reasonable goal when the KGOP has a mouth
uponit7771
Apr 2019
#38
There's no factual evidence for this. Red Don will never be as popular with democrats as Clinton was
uponit7771
Apr 2019
#23
+1, the arguments against impeachment are starting sound like BS at this point. Red Don will never
uponit7771
Apr 2019
#53
As somebody who knows better, I actually do have some serious questions about impeachment
Pope George Ringo II
Apr 2019
#86
So basically a borderline "October Surprise" moment, but nothing mechanical?
Pope George Ringo II
Apr 2019
#97
Well, if he's not removed, he gets to say "I was completely exonerated from that witch hunt."
ehrnst
Apr 2019
#16
They'll crow even if Red Don is taken out of the white house like Assange !! When has reality ever
uponit7771
Apr 2019
#30
If reality mattered to them, they wouldn't be voting for him in the first place n/t
DFW
Apr 2019
#37
So, Red Don will crow no matter what ... nothing is going to stop that. Red Don crowing is not
uponit7771
Apr 2019
#40
YES HE CAN !! When has reality ever stopped him !? We're not dealing with a sane person here
uponit7771
Apr 2019
#48
Red Don will NEVER EVER be as popular with democrats as Clinton was with republicans at that time
uponit7771
Apr 2019
#62
Doesn't matter. His fans will not change their minds, and their Senators know it. (nt)
ehrnst
Apr 2019
#76
LOL ... I'd like to hear a 2020 candidate say this and expect to win the primary. If Red Don broke
uponit7771
Apr 2019
#80
I still believe in more pressure from the people more better. Again, the first candidate that relays
uponit7771
Apr 2019
#85
With Moore having a great poll, Jones has a tenuous path to reelection in Alabama
Pope George Ringo II
Apr 2019
#88
We can impeach and not convict or remove to get the KGOP to stop stonewalling. That's the point
uponit7771
Apr 2019
#91
He gets to say that even if he's dragged out of office like Assange, facts have never mattered to...
uponit7771
Apr 2019
#27
Frankly, trump will always continue his gaslighting by saying "I was completely exonerated from
Nevermypresident
Apr 2019
#75
He's already got that ammunition now. We can impeach and not convict or move for removal the point
uponit7771
Apr 2019
#32
Yep, to mitigate the stonewalling is worth impeachment in and of itself. Democrats would have to ...
uponit7771
Apr 2019
#44
+1, and Russia is infesting the KGOP with tons of cash. There's no reason to believe they're
uponit7771
Apr 2019
#59
Same here, those against impeachment aren't giving reasoning based on good logic and some are
uponit7771
Apr 2019
#34
If they lie or stonewall during the impeachment process with the current "Justice" Department
DFW
Apr 2019
#49
Impeach Barr too, then vote to convict Barr for OoJ but don't move for removal.
uponit7771
Apr 2019
#51
Trump will make up a win even if he's dragged out of office like Assange. Red Don is not sane
uponit7771
Apr 2019
#63
The real reason is that an impeachment vote would probably fail and leave Trump emboldened.
Oneironaut
Apr 2019
#68
Red Don says he's fully exonerated now so he's already emboldened. We're not talking about ...
uponit7771
Apr 2019
#70
Then don't move to convict, that simple. The point of impeachment is to reduce the OoJ & stonewallin
uponit7771
Apr 2019
#81
Impeachment is used to stop the stonewalling not get Red Don removed and dems can make that clear
uponit7771
Apr 2019
#90
Problem is, if you do that and then find nothing, it would be awful for the Democrats.
Oneironaut
Apr 2019
#98
Because it will look like we went in fishing for evidence and found nothing.
Oneironaut
Apr 2019
#102
THIS !! The case against impeachment is falling apart once people know the facts. Red Don will never
uponit7771
Apr 2019
#83
If the Repubs cannot find the "bi-partisanship" to help release the Mueller Report?
kentuck
Apr 2019
#74