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ProfessorPlum

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Sat Apr 20, 2019, 12:20 PM Apr 2019

Gin and Tacos blogger on impeachment [View all]

If "The senate won't convict" is the argument against impeachment and "The Senate won't pass it" is the argument against House legislative efforts, what is it exactly that you strategists believe the House Democrats should spend the next 18 months doing?

Is the goal to just...be in the majority, and then sit there? "Yes! We took the House! Now, to hold HEARINGS on stuff for 2 years"?

That's like, Beto-level emptiness. Keep saying stuff like "We all need to come together" without ever saying TO DO WHAT.

https://www.facebook.com/ginandtacos/posts/10156811980101677

Here's the take-home point.

What we confirmed today is that Democrats can never wait for bipartisan buy-in to act against Trump. The GOP has made its deal with the devil and is willing to turn a blind eye to this nakedly corrupt authoritarian clown show in exchange for long-term control of the federal courts.

Either the House Democrats act now, or they just give up and we turn into Putin-era Russia, where the truth becomes so obviously irrelevant and the game so obviously rigged that the public checks out of politics altogether. This really is an important point. What happens next matters. If this isn't impeachable, nothing is impeachable. "But he won't be convicted in the Senate" is a terrible argument, a legacy of the "Let me explain why we can't win and shouldn't try" mindset the Reid-Pelosi-Schumer years have baked into Democratic DNA.

If the current status of our political system is that one party openly abets a corrupt wannabe-dictator and the other party is afraid to challenge him because they think it will make voters mad, then we might as well throw in the towel right now. If not impeachment, then what is the right thing to do? Act "disappointed"? Give pretty speeches?

What if - just maybe - it actually *improved* the party's standing to demonstrate it has basic principles that can't be swayed by amateur theorizing about how it might impact the next election. "We are for the rule of law...unless we worry that White Working Class Diner Customers won't like it" is exactly the kind of spinelessness that those voters detest.

https://www.facebook.com/ginandtacos/posts/10156811256891677

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Gin and Tacos blogger on impeachment [View all] ProfessorPlum Apr 2019 OP
Nice. onecaliberal Apr 2019 #1
IMHO we need to trust our dem leaders...stop with the arm chair! Thekaspervote Apr 2019 #2
If we refuse to even go to war we may lose... lame54 Apr 2019 #5
Because it is wrong for good men to do nothing. Oppaloopa Apr 2019 #9
Who says we are doing nothing. The report came out what...48 hours ago right before Easter and UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #17
I believe the person I was answering did... lame54 Apr 2019 #20
Apparently random internet people know what is going on behind the scenes as well. UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #13
Needs more Gin. MrsCoffee Apr 2019 #3
K & R mountain grammy Apr 2019 #4
Which parts of the constitution should we support?? gibraltar72 Apr 2019 #6
Well....we could be like the GOP plimsoll Apr 2019 #8
K & R SunSeeker Apr 2019 #7
THIS THIS THIS. This must surely become obvious to all, quickly. EveHammond13 Apr 2019 #10
If Mitch won't let us legislate, we have nothing else to do BUT impeach. SO DO IT. EveHammond13 Apr 2019 #11
THIS EveHammond13 Apr 2019 #12
Oh I love cooking threads!!! nt UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #14
AND THIS EveHammond13 Apr 2019 #15
AMEN EveHammond13 Apr 2019 #16
"Beto-level emptiness"? moreland01 Apr 2019 #18
Yeah, sorry about that ProfessorPlum Apr 2019 #21
Then there is this, watoos Apr 2019 #19
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