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In reply to the discussion: Oh, that Russia rigged the election thing? It's EVEN WORSE than you thought [View all]triron
(22,055 posts)101. They were clever enough to cover their tracks.
That's why it was not obvious they altered the election results.
Putin is probably smiling about this.
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Oh, that Russia rigged the election thing? It's EVEN WORSE than you thought [View all]
Baltimike
Jul 2019
OP
Malaise..the OP needs to be either taken down or rewritten..I am reading the report..nowhere does it
asiliveandbreathe
Jul 2019
#14
I'm with you on this. See below for link to actual report - not that long, worth our own read.
MFGsunny
Jul 2019
#28
Tks MFGsunny..been reading..am totally beside myself with this incorrect information..
asiliveandbreathe
Jul 2019
#29
Russia did not have sex with the US electoral systems !! Come on, they did everything and that
uponit7771
Jul 2019
#49
For now...we just don't know...for someone to say votes were changed without
asiliveandbreathe
Jul 2019
#54
I wish I could help you - I tried....why are you swearing and yelling...
asiliveandbreathe
Jul 2019
#63
I realize your post was not addressed to me but why do you believe what you said?
triron
Jul 2019
#65
Again, you're asking for proof that Russia changed votes when everything less than that can still...
uponit7771
Jul 2019
#67
Wow...I do not know if votes were changed..I read the report..redacted yup..
asiliveandbreathe
Jul 2019
#52
It goes both ways. We can't assume votes weren't changed and there is circumstantial evidence that
triron
Jul 2019
#59
I will await the breaking news bulletin...votes were changed - until then - I am not in the camp
asiliveandbreathe
Jul 2019
#64
Is it something I said, as many here have expressed - sad to come back 'round
asiliveandbreathe
Jul 2019
#142
Perhaps we're being overdramatic. The facts likely won't appear because we are not allowed to know.
triron
Jul 2019
#143
Another quote from most honorable son. something is true "if and only if" something else was true
asiliveandbreathe
Jul 2019
#144
Also if you have a implies b and a is true then b is true. However if you only have b is true, a is
triron
Jul 2019
#146
I may have 17 pages to go in Volumn 1 of this Senate report..so I will just say this
asiliveandbreathe
Jul 2019
#8
The Russians had the polling data and they understood the vulnerabilities, thus they struck where
triron
Jul 2019
#154
This is a bigger Russian goal to make Americans question the results and lose faith.
UniteFightBack
Jul 2019
#23
I'm retire from the computer industry. I have been saying since 2000 Bush v Gore that...
usaf-vet
Jul 2019
#41
We are not talking about those elections. No one has investigated them except in North Carolina in
triron
Jul 2019
#61
They don't have to "change" votes to alter elections numerically. Basically if its close in a state
uponit7771
Jul 2019
#69
Well in Wisconsin they were "stealing" state elections. Gerrymandering. Stacking State Supreme Court
usaf-vet
Jul 2019
#83
Exactly a LONG RANGE PLAN! Make small changes and reap the benefits in future elections.
usaf-vet
Jul 2019
#85
Nah, they just broke into systems, looked at data and just left it. That's what we're being ...
uponit7771
Jul 2019
#45
This, I'd like to know specifics on what was attempted and what was successful
Amishman
Jul 2019
#87
There was penetration into multiple levels of registration systems in 16 and 18. The stretch in ...
uponit7771
Jul 2019
#91
The stretch is to believe NOTHING was altered not vice versa and "changing" something isn't the
uponit7771
Jul 2019
#90
That's all they had to do to get people to mistrust and boy is it working. nt
UniteFightBack
Jul 2019
#135
Interesting if true. There are a lot of left wing Hillary haters out there though.
triron
Jul 2019
#53
Somebody is avoiding main conclusion -- No evidence of 2016 vote changes or manipulation.
Hoyt
Jul 2019
#58
No votes changed doesn't mean Russian didn't numerically alter the 2016 election. We've been over
uponit7771
Jul 2019
#68
Senator Wyden expressed his doubts about the reports supposed conclusion in his minority view.
triron
Jul 2019
#97
Do you have a page citation for that? I see where Wyden, rightly discusses his concerns about
Hoyt
Jul 2019
#120
Yes, and he did not say what the poster above said. Wyden did say that it should not be left to
Hoyt
Jul 2019
#123
There's this: "[In 2016, Russians] might have been cataloging options 'for use at a later date'..."
VOX
Jul 2019
#98
I think the statement below is wrong. They did execute those options. But no one will say so.
triron
Jul 2019
#100
The Russians hacked into elections computers. This is proven. They'll do it again.
yardwork
Jul 2019
#110
I believe N. C. is one of the states where vote counts were altered but maybe not enough
triron
Jul 2019
#115
Can you show where that article says they switched votes, or didn't count certain votes? It doesn't.
Hoyt
Jul 2019
#152
Seen enough conspiracies in my life that weren't supported. This is another one. Admittedly, it
Hoyt
Jul 2019
#156
If it's classified Democratic (or otherwise) senators won't say it openly. Geesh.
triron
Jul 2019
#157
Starting to believe too many Americans don't even care. Trying to bury their heads in the sand.
triron
Aug 2019
#158
the chaos and slow walking of the largest attack on America in our history is stunning. nt
Baltimike
Aug 2019
#163