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ElementaryPenguin

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20. NO! It's utter bullshit!

Reply to Kentonio (Reply #16)

Mon Aug 5, 2019, 05:10 AM

Aug 2019

"Leftist" "Socialist" - he's using the right wing labels for progressives.

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Connor Betts, Dayton Shooter, described himself as a 'Leftist' [View all] crazytown Aug 2019 OP

Nobody on the left expresses hatred for people out partying at clubs applegrove Aug 2019 #1

He was following the primaries crazytown Aug 2019 #2

Nobody was teaching him to hate the people he shot. applegrove Aug 2019 #5

No. crazytown Aug 2019 #6

How could someone like that get a gun and a huge magazine? applegrove Aug 2019 #7

A fellow student said he was arrested after making death threats crazytown Aug 2019 #9

Only way he got a gun without a background check DetroitLegalBeagle Aug 2019 #27

Yes, that is right. crazytown Aug 2019 #30

Its complicated. DetroitLegalBeagle Aug 2019 #33

Thank you crazytown Aug 2019 #34

My understanding he just got suspended from school for a while. LisaL Aug 2019 #57

Juvenile records are sealed. LisaL Aug 2019 #49

He was arrested and spent time in jail for violating probation "as an adult" BumRushDaShow Aug 2019 #65

Should that have resulted in him not been able to legally purchase guns, or was that considered LisaL Aug 2019 #66

One would think BumRushDaShow Aug 2019 #71

Relevance. Igel Aug 2019 #76

He had a criminal record as "an adult" BumRushDaShow Aug 2019 #84

He was arrested and convicted of a DUI SoCalNative Aug 2019 #102

Thank you and it was as an "adult" BumRushDaShow Aug 2019 #103

What?! he actually said Cha Aug 2019 #18

It doesn't appear to have been a hate crime. Chemisse Aug 2019 #26

We'll see, he went to a most black club and shot up mostly black people. There was also a caller int uponit7771 Aug 2019 #52

The caller was talking about a different victim, not Betts sister. LisaL Aug 2019 #59

His sister was the only 22-year-old killed, I think. nt tblue37 Aug 2019 #70

The guy that was with Betts and his sister has survived. He is a white male. LisaL Aug 2019 #117

It's a fact we know. Igel Aug 2019 #77

+1, on the other hand Donald Trump has called immigrants invaders and said they infest uponit7771 Aug 2019 #44

His Use Of The Word "Leftist" Outs Himself ChoppinBroccoli Aug 2019 #3

On the other hand... lame54 Aug 2019 #4

Are you under the impression that "leftist" is a slur for liberals? mathematic Aug 2019 #8

are Socialists generally hate mongers? stopdiggin Aug 2019 #10

This one was mathematic Aug 2019 #13

He was up to no good from the start. He pretended to be left. He clearly hated women rockfordfile Aug 2019 #123

They're as capable of it as anyone else. Codeine Aug 2019 #36

No more so than most people. Igel Aug 2019 #78

"Socialist" is what Republicans call Democrats torius Aug 2019 #11

He literally described himself as a socialist and a leftist mathematic Aug 2019 #12

Have you ever met anyone on the left who called themselves a 'leftist'? Kentonio Aug 2019 #16

Never! Meadowoak Aug 2019 #17

NO! It's utter bullshit! ElementaryPenguin Aug 2019 #20

Google "I am a leftist" and "we leftists" (include the quotes") JHB Aug 2019 #23

Yes. former9thward Aug 2019 #51

a lot Celerity Aug 2019 #60

Of course. Many people right here on DU Codeine Aug 2019 #96

I have. Lots of them... regnaD kciN Aug 2019 #101

Yes. It's typically those who consider themselves Marxists. Drunken Irishman Aug 2019 #128

Yes. Liberal is a basic personality and political personality type, Hortensis Aug 2019 #74

Exactly, he was an alt-left type, not a Dem or liberal. /nt radius777 Aug 2019 #113

Oh, I didn't know that.. Thanks, Cha Aug 2019 #19

I heard on CNN this morning octoberlib Aug 2019 #21

It seems he was shooting people in line for the bar entrance. Chemisse Aug 2019 #29

That's explicitly not true Loki Liesmith Aug 2019 #31

More like anarchists Roland99 Aug 2019 #95

Fair enough Loki Liesmith Aug 2019 #100

this all day long nt Baltimike Aug 2019 #58

there is something hinky going on mercuryblues Aug 2019 #62

Mylife profiles are hinky Niagara Aug 2019 #99

Somebody did pay to have it fixed mercuryblues Aug 2019 #118

It's imperative that you understand that Mylife is unreliable information and a scam webite Niagara Aug 2019 #121

I am aware mercuryblues Aug 2019 #122

It could have been anyone who paid for that info Niagara Aug 2019 #125

I see a lot of "I'm a liberal not a leftist" type statements JonLP24 Aug 2019 #127

Did he know his sister was there? Historic NY Aug 2019 #14

He kept 'hit lists' and 'rape lists' at school crazytown Aug 2019 #15

How would he not know, considering they drove together to the location. LisaL Aug 2019 #45

Wow, I didn't read that. Historic NY Aug 2019 #83

Him, his sister and another guy all drove there DeminPennswoods Aug 2019 #46

"He was way off his meds"... regnaD kciN Aug 2019 #104

No what I'm saying is someone kept it quiet Historic NY Aug 2019 #107

From what has been released on more reliable news outlets, he sounds like an incel wyldwolf Aug 2019 #22

True. But by the way, I like heavy.com. They seem Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2019 #25

I agree, he sounds like an incel. It also sounds like the sister was more successful than he was. LisaL Aug 2019 #39

+1 uponit7771 Aug 2019 #54

After reading this whole article, seems the guy was an enigma Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2019 #24

Good article. His gear in the trunk makes sense. Chemisse Aug 2019 #28

Yes. And was his sister in the bar? Like did she and Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2019 #35

No, his sister wasn't in the bar because he shot people on the street, not inside the bar. LisaL Aug 2019 #37

Wow..so that makes the whole thing even more curious. Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2019 #38

I thought I read somewhere that they found her body in the car. smirkymonkey Aug 2019 #90

I feel so badly for his parents too. Chemisse Aug 2019 #40

If you are talking about Betts parents, you are confusing his sister with somebody else. LisaL Aug 2019 #43

You're right! It was another victim of the same shooting. Chemisse Aug 2019 #53

That's what the LE guests on cable said, DeminPennswoods Aug 2019 #47

So what did they do? Shoot him in head? Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2019 #50

That would be my guess. LisaL Aug 2019 #56

Yes, Corgigal Aug 2019 #80

A vest wouldn't stop a rifle round NickB79 Aug 2019 #92

So it's completely naive to think, hell, when they kill Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2019 #93

Yeah, pretty much NickB79 Aug 2019 #94

:( Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2019 #111

People are people. Just voting Democratic or Liberal does not mean you are a saint. elocs Aug 2019 #32

Such true words. Chemisse Aug 2019 #41

Yes, and your political views may have very little Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2019 #42

Finding out why he killed his own sister will, imho, DeminPennswoods Aug 2019 #48

That's a good point. Her companion survived and Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2019 #64

Reportedly, he's already talked to the police DeminPennswoods Aug 2019 #75

Apparently the guy who survived is actually a friend of Betts himself. LisaL Aug 2019 #119

Fuck that noise! maxrandb Aug 2019 #55

THIS !!!! 6 of the 9 killed were black uponit7771 Aug 2019 #89

Perhaps the guy didn't know what he was. But the RW will run with the ''leftist'' crap. YOHABLO Aug 2019 #61

They already have... regnaD kciN Aug 2019 #105

So far this guy sounds like a powder-keg get the red out Aug 2019 #63

My guess the guy felt like a loser in personal and professional life and was jealous of people LisaL Aug 2019 #67

But so much more huh. Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2019 #69

Gun$- they are marketed to more than one type of political slant. He was a bully in HS +once lunasun Aug 2019 #68

A self proclaimed "leftist/socialist" Sunsky Aug 2019 #72

i'm inclined to think he was a "liar" 0rganism Aug 2019 #86

Yeah, something smells fishy about this to me as well. smirkymonkey Aug 2019 #91

Odd that such a misogynist would support Warren n/t TexasBushwhacker Aug 2019 #109

While there's a lot that seems questionable to me as well... regnaD kciN Aug 2019 #106

I did not draw any conclusions Sunsky Aug 2019 #110

Rec, agreed, nt. Mc Mike Aug 2019 #124

Psychopaths use politics for personal gain. Act_of_Reparation Aug 2019 #73

I seriously doubt this as being real... FarPoint Aug 2019 #79

I doubt it as well. I've seen no reliable source kcr Aug 2019 #88

I dont believe this. I think he was just trolling. He had been planning this for months and SweetieD Aug 2019 #81

Oh, great Bayard Aug 2019 #82

i'm really not interested in that murderous fuck's economic preferences 0rganism Aug 2019 #85

Yes, it's all clear in his manifesto claming his shooting was to draw awareness .... Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2019 #87

This doesn't appear to be politically motivated though Proud Liberal Dem Aug 2019 #97

Fine, he's a Leftist. maxsolomon Aug 2019 #98

"Both sides do it." CrispyQ Aug 2019 #108

I don't give a fuck who the psycho gunfucker supports politically. Iggo Aug 2019 #112

Many leftists are socially libertarian/conservative. radius777 Aug 2019 #114

Mixed up 24-year-old. moondust Aug 2019 #115

Ideology is not the focus, it's accessibility to militarized weapons by the wrong people. YOHABLO Aug 2019 #116

Yeah, and...? ConnorMarc Aug 2019 #120

No Democratic candidate has been inciting violence like Trump. backscatter712 Aug 2019 #126

The righties trying to tie the Dayton shooter to the left are pushing it. liberalmuse Aug 2019 #129