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maxrandb

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55. Fuck that noise!

Mon Aug 5, 2019, 07:59 AM

Aug 2019

Last edited Mon Aug 5, 2019, 09:14 AM - Edit history (1)

This guy, regardless of politics, was told that violence and hate allowed him the right to kill people by the rhetoric of Donnie Shit for Brains, Retrumplicans and Hate Radio.

The message from the "top" is clear. Hatred, violence and murder are sanctioned and encouraged by the president of the United States.

Have the media call me when ANY Democrat says he was; "just a good person on the other side".

Donnie Dollhands has given carte blanche to the evil that lies in everyone.

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Connor Betts, Dayton Shooter, described himself as a 'Leftist' [View all] crazytown Aug 2019 OP

Nobody on the left expresses hatred for people out partying at clubs applegrove Aug 2019 #1

He was following the primaries crazytown Aug 2019 #2

Nobody was teaching him to hate the people he shot. applegrove Aug 2019 #5

No. crazytown Aug 2019 #6

How could someone like that get a gun and a huge magazine? applegrove Aug 2019 #7

A fellow student said he was arrested after making death threats crazytown Aug 2019 #9

Only way he got a gun without a background check DetroitLegalBeagle Aug 2019 #27

Yes, that is right. crazytown Aug 2019 #30

Its complicated. DetroitLegalBeagle Aug 2019 #33

Thank you crazytown Aug 2019 #34

My understanding he just got suspended from school for a while. LisaL Aug 2019 #57

Juvenile records are sealed. LisaL Aug 2019 #49

He was arrested and spent time in jail for violating probation "as an adult" BumRushDaShow Aug 2019 #65

Should that have resulted in him not been able to legally purchase guns, or was that considered LisaL Aug 2019 #66

One would think BumRushDaShow Aug 2019 #71

Relevance. Igel Aug 2019 #76

He had a criminal record as "an adult" BumRushDaShow Aug 2019 #84

He was arrested and convicted of a DUI SoCalNative Aug 2019 #102

Thank you and it was as an "adult" BumRushDaShow Aug 2019 #103

What?! he actually said Cha Aug 2019 #18

It doesn't appear to have been a hate crime. Chemisse Aug 2019 #26

We'll see, he went to a most black club and shot up mostly black people. There was also a caller int uponit7771 Aug 2019 #52

The caller was talking about a different victim, not Betts sister. LisaL Aug 2019 #59

His sister was the only 22-year-old killed, I think. nt tblue37 Aug 2019 #70

The guy that was with Betts and his sister has survived. He is a white male. LisaL Aug 2019 #117

It's a fact we know. Igel Aug 2019 #77

+1, on the other hand Donald Trump has called immigrants invaders and said they infest uponit7771 Aug 2019 #44

His Use Of The Word "Leftist" Outs Himself ChoppinBroccoli Aug 2019 #3

On the other hand... lame54 Aug 2019 #4

Are you under the impression that "leftist" is a slur for liberals? mathematic Aug 2019 #8

are Socialists generally hate mongers? stopdiggin Aug 2019 #10

This one was mathematic Aug 2019 #13

He was up to no good from the start. He pretended to be left. He clearly hated women rockfordfile Aug 2019 #123

They're as capable of it as anyone else. Codeine Aug 2019 #36

No more so than most people. Igel Aug 2019 #78

"Socialist" is what Republicans call Democrats torius Aug 2019 #11

He literally described himself as a socialist and a leftist mathematic Aug 2019 #12

Have you ever met anyone on the left who called themselves a 'leftist'? Kentonio Aug 2019 #16

Never! Meadowoak Aug 2019 #17

NO! It's utter bullshit! ElementaryPenguin Aug 2019 #20

Google "I am a leftist" and "we leftists" (include the quotes") JHB Aug 2019 #23

Yes. former9thward Aug 2019 #51

a lot Celerity Aug 2019 #60

Of course. Many people right here on DU Codeine Aug 2019 #96

I have. Lots of them... regnaD kciN Aug 2019 #101

Yes. It's typically those who consider themselves Marxists. Drunken Irishman Aug 2019 #128

Yes. Liberal is a basic personality and political personality type, Hortensis Aug 2019 #74

Exactly, he was an alt-left type, not a Dem or liberal. /nt radius777 Aug 2019 #113

Oh, I didn't know that.. Thanks, Cha Aug 2019 #19

I heard on CNN this morning octoberlib Aug 2019 #21

It seems he was shooting people in line for the bar entrance. Chemisse Aug 2019 #29

That's explicitly not true Loki Liesmith Aug 2019 #31

More like anarchists Roland99 Aug 2019 #95

Fair enough Loki Liesmith Aug 2019 #100

this all day long nt Baltimike Aug 2019 #58

there is something hinky going on mercuryblues Aug 2019 #62

Mylife profiles are hinky Niagara Aug 2019 #99

Somebody did pay to have it fixed mercuryblues Aug 2019 #118

It's imperative that you understand that Mylife is unreliable information and a scam webite Niagara Aug 2019 #121

I am aware mercuryblues Aug 2019 #122

It could have been anyone who paid for that info Niagara Aug 2019 #125

I see a lot of "I'm a liberal not a leftist" type statements JonLP24 Aug 2019 #127

Did he know his sister was there? Historic NY Aug 2019 #14

He kept 'hit lists' and 'rape lists' at school crazytown Aug 2019 #15

How would he not know, considering they drove together to the location. LisaL Aug 2019 #45

Wow, I didn't read that. Historic NY Aug 2019 #83

Him, his sister and another guy all drove there DeminPennswoods Aug 2019 #46

"He was way off his meds"... regnaD kciN Aug 2019 #104

No what I'm saying is someone kept it quiet Historic NY Aug 2019 #107

From what has been released on more reliable news outlets, he sounds like an incel wyldwolf Aug 2019 #22

True. But by the way, I like heavy.com. They seem Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2019 #25

I agree, he sounds like an incel. It also sounds like the sister was more successful than he was. LisaL Aug 2019 #39

+1 uponit7771 Aug 2019 #54

After reading this whole article, seems the guy was an enigma Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2019 #24

Good article. His gear in the trunk makes sense. Chemisse Aug 2019 #28

Yes. And was his sister in the bar? Like did she and Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2019 #35

No, his sister wasn't in the bar because he shot people on the street, not inside the bar. LisaL Aug 2019 #37

Wow..so that makes the whole thing even more curious. Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2019 #38

I thought I read somewhere that they found her body in the car. smirkymonkey Aug 2019 #90

I feel so badly for his parents too. Chemisse Aug 2019 #40

If you are talking about Betts parents, you are confusing his sister with somebody else. LisaL Aug 2019 #43

You're right! It was another victim of the same shooting. Chemisse Aug 2019 #53

That's what the LE guests on cable said, DeminPennswoods Aug 2019 #47

So what did they do? Shoot him in head? Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2019 #50

That would be my guess. LisaL Aug 2019 #56

Yes, Corgigal Aug 2019 #80

A vest wouldn't stop a rifle round NickB79 Aug 2019 #92

So it's completely naive to think, hell, when they kill Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2019 #93

Yeah, pretty much NickB79 Aug 2019 #94

:( Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2019 #111

People are people. Just voting Democratic or Liberal does not mean you are a saint. elocs Aug 2019 #32

Such true words. Chemisse Aug 2019 #41

Yes, and your political views may have very little Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2019 #42

Finding out why he killed his own sister will, imho, DeminPennswoods Aug 2019 #48

That's a good point. Her companion survived and Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2019 #64

Reportedly, he's already talked to the police DeminPennswoods Aug 2019 #75

Apparently the guy who survived is actually a friend of Betts himself. LisaL Aug 2019 #119

Fuck that noise! maxrandb Aug 2019 #55

THIS !!!! 6 of the 9 killed were black uponit7771 Aug 2019 #89

Perhaps the guy didn't know what he was. But the RW will run with the ''leftist'' crap. YOHABLO Aug 2019 #61

They already have... regnaD kciN Aug 2019 #105

So far this guy sounds like a powder-keg get the red out Aug 2019 #63

My guess the guy felt like a loser in personal and professional life and was jealous of people LisaL Aug 2019 #67

But so much more huh. Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2019 #69

Gun$- they are marketed to more than one type of political slant. He was a bully in HS +once lunasun Aug 2019 #68

A self proclaimed "leftist/socialist" Sunsky Aug 2019 #72

i'm inclined to think he was a "liar" 0rganism Aug 2019 #86

Yeah, something smells fishy about this to me as well. smirkymonkey Aug 2019 #91

Odd that such a misogynist would support Warren n/t TexasBushwhacker Aug 2019 #109

While there's a lot that seems questionable to me as well... regnaD kciN Aug 2019 #106

I did not draw any conclusions Sunsky Aug 2019 #110

Rec, agreed, nt. Mc Mike Aug 2019 #124

Psychopaths use politics for personal gain. Act_of_Reparation Aug 2019 #73

I seriously doubt this as being real... FarPoint Aug 2019 #79

I doubt it as well. I've seen no reliable source kcr Aug 2019 #88

I dont believe this. I think he was just trolling. He had been planning this for months and SweetieD Aug 2019 #81

Oh, great Bayard Aug 2019 #82

i'm really not interested in that murderous fuck's economic preferences 0rganism Aug 2019 #85

Yes, it's all clear in his manifesto claming his shooting was to draw awareness .... Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2019 #87

This doesn't appear to be politically motivated though Proud Liberal Dem Aug 2019 #97

Fine, he's a Leftist. maxsolomon Aug 2019 #98

"Both sides do it." CrispyQ Aug 2019 #108

I don't give a fuck who the psycho gunfucker supports politically. Iggo Aug 2019 #112

Many leftists are socially libertarian/conservative. radius777 Aug 2019 #114

Mixed up 24-year-old. moondust Aug 2019 #115

Ideology is not the focus, it's accessibility to militarized weapons by the wrong people. YOHABLO Aug 2019 #116

Yeah, and...? ConnorMarc Aug 2019 #120

No Democratic candidate has been inciting violence like Trump. backscatter712 Aug 2019 #126

The righties trying to tie the Dayton shooter to the left are pushing it. liberalmuse Aug 2019 #129