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Proud Liberal Dem

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Tue Dec 31, 2019, 11:31 AM Dec 2019

Impeachment "Good" for Trump? [View all]

I was scrolling through my Twitter Feed early this morning and saw an article published by The Hill where Tulsi Gabbard (the one the same) offered up her view that Impeachment would help re-elect Trump 2020. I won't get too much into my rage-filled feelings about Tulsi Gabbard (which side is she on?), but her opinion is one that seems to be banging around social media and op-ed pieces like a ball being knocked around inside a Pinball Table- that impeaching Trump is going to "help" Trump in 2020 and that Democrats are basically stupid for going after him for his obvious misconduct (re: Ukraine)

My question, are you f**king serious? In what reality will impeaching Trump *help* him, seriously? His MAGAT base will, as with all things, stand solidly behind him and rage at Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff, et. al right along with him, of course, but then I'm reading polling where REMOVING Trump from office actually has pretty solid public support. So, what's the deal here? How does impeaching Trump actually help him? Is there actual historical context for this assertion or is it just a whole lot of wishful thinking. I'm aware that there was never much public support for impeaching Bill Clinton in 1998-1999 and his popularity seemed to increase as a result- but his successor, Al Gore, *lost* in 2000- and George W. Bush was able to more or less successfully run on a platform of "restoring dignity to the White House" (LOL). Nixon wasn't impeached but he probably would have had he not resigned in disgrace and Republicans lost in 1976. I don't know much about Johnson's impeachment to comment on his situation at the moment. But, I still want to know why, exactly, some people think that it's going to help him, especially with how he is reacting to it and how the Republicans in Senate are planning their show trial to "exonerate" him?

Is anybody here able to see how Trump comes out of an Impeachment Trial- even if acquitted- with a strong(er) chance for re-election in 2020? I've heard that it will help "energize" his base, but won't it energize our base, who have been clamoring for it for even longer, as well?

Interested in everybody's thoughts here.

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