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In reply to the discussion: The foolish American: Many Americans foolishly refuse to recognize this fact about the virus. [View all]SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)22. Exactly, and
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Sat Apr 18, 2020, 12:05 AM
Sometimes more information can be a problem.
When we first heard about covid19, the skinny on it was this:
Deadly to older folks with compromised health.
That meant that MANY super-rich older folks seemed to be the target. These are the people who get catapulted to the top of transplant lists, and have the best that money can buy when it comes to hospitals and specialists.
There was real cause for concern. The whole issue was all about protecting our elders. We were eager to stay at home, cut off contact.
Anything to protect Grandma and Grandpa, or CEOS. For days there were always pics of genteel/frail (white) elders on tv day and night.
BUT it wasnt long before more information came out that narrowed the target population.
Poor people are at greater risk because of the density of living conditions, mostly in larger cities (Usually Democratic party voters live there).
They are also more at risk because of their health issues. Decades of poor health care due to the fact that most poor people work really shitty jobs with no sick leave or health insurance. These people rely on the ER for health care, and cannot pay for their care.
Many poor folks are chronically unemployed, or homeless. This means that their basic food supply is laden with fats/sugars and is often stuff thats bought at bodegas/dollar stores and is usually processed to the nth degree. Obesity, heart disease, high blood pressure, asthma, and diabetes are well known to poor people.
These are not personal choices. They are financial consequences of where and how they have to live (polluted areas with bad air, bad water, mold, toxic substances in the buildings, etc).
The elder poor who are in nursing homes are usually in homes that are Medicaid-supported. These places are often staffed with younger poor folks who make substandard wages, are extremely overworked, and often live in densely populated living conditions.
Elder not-so-poor are not immune even though they can afford resort style retirement homes, because the staff is still often poor younger folks, since the owners of these facilities are always watching the bottom line.
Minorities are often a large part of the poor faction. Hispanics, documented or undocumented, and African Americans soon became the media focus.
With that new focus, every interviewer was immediately putting any democrat on the air in the hot seat with questions about why these folks were not a part of the $1200 scheme and how they (Dems) would shape future legislation to see that these people got their fair shake.. and of course why they were disproportionately affected by the virus..(always asked with pretend naivete)
It was not a very far leap before prisoners became the focus.
So in a few weeks, the story about the virus went from being a bad old invisible enemy set on killing Granny & Gramps, to an inevitable force of nature that seemed to be preying on illegals, non-whites, lazy poor folks, and prisoners.
Ive understood how republicans think for a very long time now, and I knew where this was heading. Remember after Katrina, when some congressman said that Katrina had accomplished what they had been trying to do for a very long time?
Republicans are just fine with the virus running wild.
Apparently, Trump can not only shoot someone on 5th Avenue, but he can also exterminate tens of thousands of people, and his crew will love him all the more.
This is why he does not want to waste money and effort on testing. He needs for the virus to do his partys work, and if a few doctors and nurses, or some celebs die, hes ok with that.
He can now just blame the governors.
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 12:05 AM
Sometimes more information can be a problem.
When we first heard about covid19, the skinny on it was this:
Deadly to older folks with compromised health.
That meant that MANY super-rich older folks seemed to be the target. These are the people who get catapulted to the top of transplant lists, and have the best that money can buy when it comes to hospitals and specialists.
There was real cause for concern. The whole issue was all about protecting our elders. We were eager to stay at home, cut off contact.
Anything to protect Grandma and Grandpa, or CEOS. For days there were always pics of genteel/frail (white) elders on tv day and night.
BUT it wasnt long before more information came out that narrowed the target population.
Poor people are at greater risk because of the density of living conditions, mostly in larger cities (Usually Democratic party voters live there).
They are also more at risk because of their health issues. Decades of poor health care due to the fact that most poor people work really shitty jobs with no sick leave or health insurance. These people rely on the ER for health care, and cannot pay for their care.
Many poor folks are chronically unemployed, or homeless. This means that their basic food supply is laden with fats/sugars and is often stuff thats bought at bodegas/dollar stores and is usually processed to the nth degree. Obesity, heart disease, high blood pressure, asthma, and diabetes are well known to poor people.
These are not personal choices. They are financial consequences of where and how they have to live (polluted areas with bad air, bad water, mold, toxic substances in the buildings, etc).
The elder poor who are in nursing homes are usually in homes that are Medicaid-supported. These places are often staffed with younger poor folks who make substandard wages, are extremely overworked, and often live in densely populated living conditions.
Elder not-so-poor are not immune even though they can afford resort style retirement homes, because the staff is still often poor younger folks, since the owners of these facilities are always watching the bottom line.
Minorities are often a large part of the poor faction. Hispanics, documented or undocumented, and African Americans soon became the media focus.
With that new focus, every interviewer was immediately putting any democrat on the air in the hot seat with questions about why these folks were not a part of the $1200 scheme and how they (Dems) would shape future legislation to see that these people got their fair shake.. and of course why they were disproportionately affected by the virus..(always asked with pretend naivete)
It was not a very far leap before prisoners became the focus.
So in a few weeks, the story about the virus went from being a bad old invisible enemy set on killing Granny & Gramps, to an inevitable force of nature that seemed to be preying on illegals, non-whites, lazy poor folks, and prisoners.
Ive understood how republicans think for a very long time now, and I knew where this was heading. Remember after Katrina, when some congressman said that Katrina had accomplished what they had been trying to do for a very long time?
Republicans are just fine with the virus running wild.
Apparently, Trump can not only shoot someone on 5th Avenue, but he can also exterminate tens of thousands of people, and his crew will love him all the more.
This is why he does not want to waste money and effort on testing. He needs for the virus to do his partys work, and if a few doctors and nurses, or some celebs die, hes ok with that.
He can now just blame the governors.
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The foolish American: Many Americans foolishly refuse to recognize this fact about the virus. [View all]
shockey80
Jun 2020
OP
Well said - though I'd add Fox Network has a chunk of the blame too, and Facebook n/t
Pluvious
Jun 2020
#3
The thing about Trump, Fox, and other right-wing misinformation peddlers
Proud Liberal Dem
Jun 2020
#35
While Trumpers have to sign a waiver so they can't sue if they get sick at a rally...
Beartracks
Jun 2020
#51
Goalposts in October: "It could have been a million! And I know about millions, very good with
BamaRefugee
Jun 2020
#7
One MAGAt I know refuses to wear a mask because it won't protect HIM. The fact that if everyone
highplainsdem
Jun 2020
#10
At this point, I'm starting to think they just want the older people to die so no SS gets paid.
Lucky Luciano
Jun 2020
#15
Except for the people at protests. I was at a George Floyd protest yesterday and saw many people
hughee99
Jun 2020
#24
I agree. I had mine on. I even brought some extras and offered them to people not wearing them.
hughee99
Jun 2020
#41
*DISAGREE*, Government(S) are communicating in multitude of ways things aren't bad as scientist say
uponit7771
Jun 2020
#27
This may be the most stark demonstration of how the right-wing has infected...
KY_EnviroGuy
Jun 2020
#33
Not wearing masks makes that non-compliant person complicit and/or guilty of second degree murder
lambchopp59
Jun 2020
#58