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EarlG

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Sat Oct 3, 2020, 10:16 PM Oct 2020

On Trump's condition [View all]

For all the talk about Trump's condition, here's something to bear in mind: all the reports you're hearing about him could pretty much all be true at the same time.

Today we've heard from Trump's doctor's that he's fine, just fine, except they didn't want to tell us what his temperature was or whether he was on oxygen. Then we heard from anonymous sources (Mark Meadows) that Trump's condition is serious and people are very concerned for his health. The we saw a video of Trump talking about how great he was feeling. Then we find out that he really did suffer a drop in oxygen levels and was on supplemental O2.

My thought is that none of this is necessarily inconsistent. There's still a lot we don't know about COVID, but quite a lot we do know. For example we know that the time from infection to symptoms is roughly 2-14 days -- Trump and everyone else is right in this zone if they all got it at the same event last week. We know that a fever is one of the first symptoms -- Trump had a fever. We know that a drop in oxygen levels is a sign that the condition could become serious. We also know that it's not uncommon for patients to go through cycles of feeling okay and then feeling worse. In a lot of cases, patients started with a fever, then started feeling better, then got significantly worse.

This is not to say that Trump is going to get better or worse. The point is we don't know, but there's a reason that I'm sure Trump's doctors are feeling worried, and that's because they also just don't know where this is going to go. There's absolutely no reason why Trump couldn't have felt well enough to make that video today. There's also absolutely no reason why he might not be on a ventilator tomorrow.

The next 48 hours really will be critical, and we'll know in a few days what is likely to happen to him. Either way, speculating about it at this juncture is probably not going to get us anywhere. To quote the world's biggest asshole, "It is what it is." And pretty soon we're going to find out what "it" is.

(Of course, none of this changes the fact that THEY ALL DEFINITELY KNEW HE HAD COVID AND SENT HIM OUT TO DO FUNDRAISERS ANYWAY WITHOUT TELLING ANYBODY -- and whether he recovers or not, that's just despicable.)

Edited to add: I wrote 48 hours above, but many reports on COVID have indicated that 10 days or so after the onset of symptoms is the real danger zone. At that point you either get better or get much worse. So if Trump first started exhibiting symptoms last Wednesday, we probably won't know if he's out of the woods or not until at least next weekend.

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On Trump's condition [View all] EarlG Oct 2020 OP
Thanks for the sanity check EarlG! flibbitygiblets Oct 2020 #1
How do we know thou..seriously. They lie all the time Thekaspervote Oct 2020 #2
You are spot on. Not thing seems normal. You can tell its Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2020 #15
Didn't his brother just die from COVID a couple of months ago? Trump's brother, Robert? BComplex Oct 2020 #48
Officially, no Retrograde Oct 2020 #50
wisdom... NRaleighLiberal Oct 2020 #3
A 19 year old college kid died just over a week ago. I believe he went to Appalachia State (sp?). Blue_true Oct 2020 #4
The other piece of this is that he's getting the best of--and not widely available--treatment mnhtnbb Oct 2020 #5
True. And yet who is running this? Trump? Like he made Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2020 #16
Speculation can be fun sport sometimes... Wounded Bear Oct 2020 #6
It is just despicable, but at least he's keeping it to other despicable. ffr Oct 2020 #7
Trump rso Oct 2020 #8
Or maybe to lower expectations in the other direction EarlG Oct 2020 #9
But your speculations tend to be grounded in reality, EarlG. It's appreciated. nt crickets Oct 2020 #34
First, don't believe a word the turd's doctors say. not_the_one Oct 2020 #10
Yeah, it's worth remembering that Trump WH communications are always a mess compared to RockRaven Oct 2020 #11
If he could have avoided that hospital, as a sign of weakness - as he Jarqui Oct 2020 #12
My daughter is a nurse in a COVID unit. You nailed it appleannie1 Oct 2020 #13
A doctor today on CNN said that for the first couple of days... brush Oct 2020 #14
We Can Also Reasonably Extrapolate Other Things DallasNE Oct 2020 #17
Thanks for this.. in addition we have to contend with Cha Oct 2020 #18
Do They Then Run Those Papers Through A Microwave DallasNE Oct 2020 #21
Okay, it is late, and I have not had enough caffeine. Those are pics taken from two different times? niyad Oct 2020 #23
omg.. I didn't even notice the difference Cha Oct 2020 #26
You are most welcome.i am still having trouble with the cuff links.i mean, I get wearing his own, niyad Oct 2020 #27
Simple: he signed a blank piece of paper, which made him too hot... dchill Oct 2020 #30
Thanks for that, dchill Cha Oct 2020 #39
Turns out the "two different times" are 10 minutes apart. dchill Oct 2020 #40
Please note that that was a question, not a statement. niyad Oct 2020 #43
Is that a bandage on his hand, covering up IV bruising, or is his skin that wrinkled?? niyad Oct 2020 #24
I looked with my magnifying glass Cha Oct 2020 #29
Take another look. Past the sleeve. The back of his hand. niyad Oct 2020 #32
I knew I might be wrong.. Cha Oct 2020 #35
Believe me, I understand. No, the right hand. In the bottom pic. With the jacket. Hand is closer. niyad Oct 2020 #36
Omg.. lol Cha Oct 2020 #37
I am glad that It wasn't just me seeing things! niyad Oct 2020 #41
Me too! & check this out.. mystery solved.. Cha Oct 2020 #44
You did notice that the left and right pics had two completely different backgrounds? niyad Oct 2020 #46
Yes.. he's all over the place Without a Mask.. in the Cha Oct 2020 #47
Yikes on his wrinkles. No, I was just wondering if a bandage was covering up bruising. niyad Oct 2020 #42
His Hand Is That Wrinkled DallasNE Oct 2020 #38
When Dr. Conley described Trump as "slightly overweight", he spooky3 Oct 2020 #19
This is ALL a Trumpian Cabal SCAM. BadGimp Oct 2020 #20
Hmmmm. "They all Knew he had Covid and they sent him out". I see Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2020 #22
Thanks Earl. For doing your best to tamp down all the CT shit we are seeing here today. GulfCoast66 Oct 2020 #25
Fair summation indeed, Wash. state Desk Jet Oct 2020 #28
The virus is in control. WheelWalker Oct 2020 #31
❤️ ✿❧🌿❧✿ ❤️ Lucinda Oct 2020 #33
His hair notinkansas Oct 2020 #45
K&R. Prediction is a difficult task at best. uppityperson Oct 2020 #49
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