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SmartVoter22

(639 posts)
Fri Jan 29, 2021, 08:46 AM Jan 2021

Auto makers going electric - so why Keystone Pipeline again? [View all]

GM announced on Jan 28, and most of the world's car makers are all setting a target of 2030 for all-electric vehicles.
GM, VW, BMW, Ford, Chrysler-Fiat, Honda, Nissan, Peugeot have all announced an 'all-electric' goal. Most cars have smaller and smaller engine options. Any hybrid car has more horsepower and torque than a fuel-only based counterpart.
The fastest cars are electric only, or electric-assisted.

Once professional transportation, ie: the trucking industry, switches to all-electric, it becomes less clear as to what this pipeline is going to be providing. An 18-wheeled semi will use those non-driving wheels to keep recharging it's batteries. Almost all electrics use the braking systems for a recharging supplement. Batteries are getting better, 500 mile 'tank range' is common. Apple makes the longest lived phone batteries and has enough cash-on-hand to purchase GM & Ford outright.

Does TransCanada or the American Petroleum groups have any information on the electric cars affect on it's long term business plan or won't it 'go there'?

Why do we need the Keystone XL pipeline again?


Gasoline consumption will decrease annually as more electric cars are produced. This will also increase the price of gasoline & diesel fueled vehicles as they loose the models that will continue to use gasoline & diesel. This is simple business 101.

Many GOPs are screaming about 10,000 jobs with the pipeline. None have provided any actual proof for that 10,000 number.
Are there any professional studies or surveys, that support that 10K number over the next decade?
Are we really going to need that many grocery shopping bags?

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I thought the pipeline was canceled Fullduplexxx Jan 2021 #1
It's dead. The Canadians are expanding the Trans Mountain Pipeline to the ports in BC. Klaralven Jan 2021 #3
Thank you Fullduplexxx Jan 2021 #4
Good. It benefits Canada (not really corrupt if you ask me) somewhat but us not at all. Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #17
Petroleum products go far beyond motor oil and gasoline. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2021 #2
We've run out of oil? SmartVoter22 Feb 2021 #25
That dirty crude isn't even for US consumption. It was going to be schlepped down to Houston and Liberal In Texas Jan 2021 #5
THIS! 2naSalit Jan 2021 #6
Ok, this sounds practical. SmartVoter22 Jan 2021 #10
Consumers do not like electric vehicles. former9thward Jan 2021 #7
Well, yeah, old guys who still buy Buicks don't Progressive Jones Jan 2021 #8
When they find out their i-phones and laptops and ear buds are made of oil products former9thward Jan 2021 #9
I was arguing with your assertion that people don't want electric vehicles. Progressive Jones Jan 2021 #13
I don't know if you are listening to them. former9thward Jan 2021 #19
I wouldn't discount what they desire. I agree with them, but probably not on the time line. nt Progressive Jones Jan 2021 #20
chernobyl is a monument to the "cleanest and safest energy of all..." nt msongs Jan 2021 #23
So you go by Russian standards? former9thward Jan 2021 #24
In WWII products that used oil were made from other substances...the same will happen here. Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #16
Well when you invent that you will be a billionaire former9thward Jan 2021 #21
Consumers do like electric cars. SmartVoter22 Jan 2021 #11
My wife and I haven't bought gas in 4 years Ron Green Jan 2021 #12
Actually untrue...a family member works in an industry that will produce electric vehicles... Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #15
Not True. Tesla out sold the other 3 luxury brands last year scrabblequeen40 Jan 2021 #18
We don't need it. There was never any benefit for us...even without electric cars...that Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #14
We really don't need expensive poor quality tar-sands crude Dem2 Jan 2021 #22
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