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In reply to the discussion: Manchin and Sinema are not centrist. [View all]LetMyPeopleVote
(147,275 posts)94. Do you understand that you are wrong in your anaylsis
I am not being ironic in strongly disagreeing with your claims and attempts at analysis. You are wrong and many real democcrats lost in 2020 due to being attacked as socialists and far left. I saw a good number of ads using the ignorant "defund the police" policy to great effect.
The fact that you do not understand the facts here is sad
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I kept telling the complainers that President Biden was going to be a big surprise
yellowdogintexas
Mar 2021
#36
That graphing system needs a rework, because Trump was populist, Libertarians self-affecting.
TheBlackAdder
Mar 2021
#78
those charts (that specific site) are useless, I have seen them trotted out so often, they are way
Celerity
Mar 2021
#97
Voters who "perceive" Hillary Clinton, Barak Obama, Joe Biden, and Kamala Harris as "centrist" and
lapucelle
Mar 2021
#23
It's an obsession... quite the compulsion for many on the far left who hate him.
NurseJackie
Mar 2021
#8
That lacks illustrative clarity and precision with regard to making contrasts and comparisons...
NurseJackie
Mar 2021
#24
If "far left" is deemed to be offensive, then "moderate" or "centrist" are offensive, too....
George II
Mar 2021
#32
Who other than you mentioned her? And who are these "conservative Democrats who hate progressives"?
George II
Mar 2021
#45
For contrast, here are Tom Cotton and Mitch McConnell...based on their voting records.
lapucelle
Mar 2021
#21
I often see people with about the same voting records, yet one is progressive, the other centrist
betsuni
Mar 2021
#61
When the far left can get elected in WVA or Arizona then I will listen until then...we need a
Demsrule86
Mar 2021
#43
Harris is more progressive than Sanders. HRC is much more left than Biden and Obama. And
LizBeth
Mar 2021
#10
I am not going to pretend their lack of fact is a reality. I know there are far left with an
LizBeth
Mar 2021
#33
That is what I told folks during the primary. Biden was more left than Pres. Obama.
Demsrule86
Mar 2021
#44
I don't know what your definition is, but Manchin is definitely centrist -- in the middle.
pnwmom
Mar 2021
#55
2016, 2017, 2019 I think. Sanders ranked 11th. 10 other Democratic Leaders ranked more progressive.
LizBeth
Mar 2021
#60
What exactly was the basis for this ranking, out of curiosity? Sanders is a democratic socialist.
DTomlinson
Mar 2021
#64
You gotta educate yourself. The info is out there. I did the reading. I am not going to go out
LizBeth
Mar 2021
#67
You can look up the voting records of individual representatives and senators here.
lapucelle
Mar 2021
#89
They just voted for the most progressive piece of legislation in generations.
Johnny2X2X
Mar 2021
#13
interesting to me is how their phrasing seeks to define them apart from other Democrats
bigtree
Mar 2021
#27
The most important thing about both Sinema and Manchin is that they're DEMOCRATS!
George II
Mar 2021
#35
Progressive Punch ranks Manchin overall at #50 in the Senate, voting with us 62% of the time.
pnwmom
Mar 2021
#40
They voted for the Covid bill exactly what have they done wrong...the minimum wage? It
Demsrule86
Mar 2021
#47
Manchin and Sinema weren't the only ones who voted against the $15 minimum wage
LeftInTX
Mar 2021
#56
They are the mid point between a party of mostly sociopathic politicians and a party of moderates
Bonn1997
Mar 2021
#63
They are in the middle of two parties who are largely skewed to the left and the right. nt
pnwmom
Mar 2021
#75
Joe Manchin is literally defying gravity, and is as "blue" as anything Dems will get from West Virg
LetMyPeopleVote
Mar 2021
#90