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Celerity

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29. you so do NOT want new variants, trust me, the South African and the Brasilian variants
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 05:20 PM
Mar 2021

reduce vaccine efficacy, sometimes to a large degree, depending on what vaccine and what variant you are talking about. And there are new variants popping up all the time. Variant are running wild here in Europe (plus many nations have cocked up vaccine distribution). We are in the ditch overall atm.

example:

AstraZeneca Vaccine Fails To Protect Against The South African Variant, Says Study

https://www.forbes.com/sites/williamhaseltine/2021/03/17/astrazeneca-vaccine-fails-to-protect-against-the-south-african-variant/?sh=7539a7be6526

Two doses of the AstraZeneca Covid-19 vaccine were found to have only a 10.4% efficacy against mild-to-moderate infections caused by the B.1.351 South Africa variant, according to a phase 1b-2 clinical trial published on Tuesday in the New England Journal of Medicine. This is a cause for grave concern as the South African variants share similar mutations to the other variants leaving those vaccinated with the AstraZeneca vaccine potentially exposed to multiple variants. This new finding should force a rapid acceleration of second-generation vaccines and encourage further research into the possibility of a pancoronavirus vaccine.


The trial evaluated the safety and the efficacy of the AstraZeneca vaccine in HIV-negative adults aged between 18 to 64 years old with a median age of 30 years old. The trial was conducted between June 24 and November 9, 2020 in South Africa using a multisite, double-blind, randomized, placebo-controlled approach. Out of the trial’s 750 vaccine recipients, 19 (2.5%) developed mild to moderate COVID-19 more than 14 days after the second dose, compared with 23 of 717 placebo recipients (3.2%). Of the 42 total cases of Covid-19, 39 (93%) were caused by the B.1.351 South Africa variant. These results demonstrated that the AstraZeneca vaccine was only 10.4% effective against the B.1.351 South Africa variant. It is important to note that there were still no cases of hospitalization for severe Covid-19 or deaths observed in the study. Yet the authors did caution that the relatively young median age of participants (30 years) likely influenced the lack of severe Covid-19 cases.

The South African B.1.351 shares similar mutations with several other variants. Mutations to positions 417 (K417N), 484 (E484K), and 501 (N501Y) are all located in the receptor-binding domain. This structure is the part of the spike protein that attaches to the ACE2 receptor of the human cell. The K417N and E484K mutations have been seen in the Brazilian and Japanese variants, and N501Y has additionally been seen in the UK variant.

External to the spike protein, there are a set of three deletions in non-structural protein six which also appear in the Brazilian, Japanese, UK, Nigerian, and New York variants. NSP6 is a structural transmembrane protein and these deletions additionally may assist in neutralization escape. NSP2 also carries a common mutation: T85I. This mutation appears in the California variant, the New York variant, and a number of other US variants. While NSP2 has no known function, the pervasiveness of the mutation is notable at the very least. In NSP12, mutation P323L is pervasive in nearly every variant. This protein is the polymerase, which controls viral replication. While it may not aid immune-escape, this mutation certainly aids increased transmissibility of the South African variant and others.

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So he's an idiot, got it... nt kirkuchiyo Mar 2021 #1
Nailed it. NurseJackie Mar 2021 #4
So he's doesn't care if he spreads the virus ... nt Trueblue1968 Mar 2021 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Mar 2021 #31
Avoid him. Like the plague. lagomorph777 Mar 2021 #2
1,000,000++++ FlyingPiggy Mar 2021 #18
And ask management to permanently enforce mask wearing Ms. Toad Mar 2021 #21
It doesn't work that way - vaccinated people still need to wear a mask womanofthehills Mar 2021 #38
First - I said nothng about vaccinated people not wearing masks. Ms. Toad Mar 2021 #41
I got my first yesterday. Slept 16 hours. jimfields33 Mar 2021 #3
I have been sleeping a lot (9-10 hrs daily) ever since my 1st Pfizer over 2 weeks ago. triron Mar 2021 #42
I'd acknowledge his right to refuse the vaccine Xavier Breath Mar 2021 #5
He is just selfish. DURHAM D Mar 2021 #6
Unfortunately, there is a risk if you go to the government web site and look at the VAERS reports womanofthehills Mar 2021 #39
and most of us are taking it because we care DURHAM D Mar 2021 #40
Then he'll risk being a carrier of the virus & spread it to others Budi Mar 2021 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Mar 2021 #36
I'd like to hear the religious justification for not taking the vaccine (or for not wearing masks) Midnight Writer Mar 2021 #8
All the people of faith I knew got their kids vaccinated for polio, smallpox, etc. catrose Mar 2021 #15
It's likely one or more of the following: Mariana Mar 2021 #19
Arrgh LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2021 #9
Republican men should be reminded that their cult master claims he is the creator of the vaccine. nt Doremus Mar 2021 #46
He should be fired. roamer65 Mar 2021 #10
He would win in court if he was fired because the vaccines are still listed as "experimental" womanofthehills Mar 2021 #34
They soon will be fully licensed. roamer65 Mar 2021 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Mar 2021 #37
Not worth discussing with them, of course NQAS Mar 2021 #11
Virus doen't care about his faith. Claire Oh Nette Mar 2021 #12
that study did not take into account the variants Celerity Mar 2021 #25
I tell them that they are very brave Cicada Mar 2021 #13
Same here inwiththenew Mar 2021 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Mar 2021 #33
If he had Covid, he probably has natural antibodies womanofthehills Mar 2021 #35
THIS is a problem in lots of places bluestarone Mar 2021 #16
you so do NOT want new variants, trust me, the South African and the Brasilian variants Celerity Mar 2021 #29
what does being a "person of faith" choie Mar 2021 #17
The number of yokels casting doubts about BootinUp Mar 2021 #20
Company, please make it mandatory. Don't like it. kairos12 Mar 2021 #23
His faith is weak and useless. Aristus Mar 2021 #24
RepubliCon Jesus will protect your co-worker. sarcasmo Mar 2021 #26
Does your co-worker where a seatbelt in the car? Caliman73 Mar 2021 #27
Their bodies raptor_rider Mar 2021 #28
What faith wants him to ignore the blessings of science? blm Mar 2021 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Mar 2021 #32
My renter refuses to get vaccinated. I have tolerated it so far but that may soon end. triron Mar 2021 #43
My husband works with people who refuse it, even though they're offered Wingus Dingus Mar 2021 #45
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