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drray23

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Wed Mar 2, 2022, 02:31 PM Mar 2022

Is there a trigger for actual military intervention ? [View all]

I know that we don't want to get involved directly for fear of triggering an all out war. I do wonder if that calculus changes if Putin starts mass killings by leveling cities with millions of people in it like Kyiv and Kharkiv.

Do we just stand there watching, wearing sunflowers and blue and yellow or does this motivates NATO to establish air superiority to stop it ? We did it during the Bosnian wars over Sarajevo.

It all hinges on whether or not western powers believe Putin would use nukes if we ground his air force over Ukraine.

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Not a pre-defined public one, certainly. MineralMan Mar 2022 #1
Yes, is there any point at which we help Ukraine? Irish_Dem Mar 2022 #2
What do you think we should be doing? Ocelot II Mar 2022 #5
Yes of course. I am not foolish. But I will not be happy watching wholesale slaughter. Irish_Dem Mar 2022 #7
We are not doing nothing. Did you not hear Biden's SOTU? Ocelot II Mar 2022 #10
I don't mean banking help. I mean direct and immediate help to save lives now. Irish_Dem Mar 2022 #11
So what should be done, and how? Ocelot II Mar 2022 #12
You aren't intimately involved in US international relations and Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2022 #15
We ARE helping Ukraine. Military supplies, intelligence, economic and diplomatic sanctions on RU mathematic Mar 2022 #25
NATO involvement for now. Or Russia directly attacks us. haele Mar 2022 #3
Not one that relates to Ukraine. Zero. David__77 Mar 2022 #4
This is the pivotal question for our time. Big Blue Marble Mar 2022 #6
Have felt this for days now. Sadly it seems like a given Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2022 #8
That's the thing. We don't need any boot on the ground. drray23 Mar 2022 #9
Could we? Ocelot II Mar 2022 #16
They do... and we have ways of dealing with that. Happy Hoosier Mar 2022 #19
I'm sure they are considering all options. drray23 Mar 2022 #23
Ridiculous. That would mean shooting down Russian aircraft. tritsofme Mar 2022 #22
Maybe something like Pearl Harbor. ananda Mar 2022 #13
I don't think we want another Pearl Harbor. .n/t. whathehell Mar 2022 #20
I honestly don't think we can guess at that. ificandream Mar 2022 #14
That's one of the things that bugs me. Happy Hoosier Mar 2022 #17
I agree. For example what if Putin starts using tactical nucs drray23 Mar 2022 #24
The sad truth is that they don't need nukes to level a city. Crunchy Frog Mar 2022 #28
Volunteer fighter regiments are being organized in many countries. Beastly Boy Mar 2022 #18
Why doesn't Putin attack them? Saw video of servicemen Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2022 #26
Too small is one plausible explanation. Beastly Boy Mar 2022 #29
Russia isn't a minor Third World or Middle East country we can invade without much jalan48 Mar 2022 #21
The trigger is if they set one foot onto NATO territory. Crunchy Frog Mar 2022 #27
I wonder if cyber-attacks are now a formal part of 'an attack on NATO' Torchlight Mar 2022 #30
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