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relayerbob

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8. The "No Fly Zone" is a misleading term

Wed Mar 16, 2022, 02:47 PM

Mar 2022

As far off the mark as "Special Military Operation". It requires 24/7 combat air patrols by hundreds of fighters, plus AWACS and tankers, covering a country the size of Texas. The Russians will shoot planes down with SAMs, even if they withhold flying planes (which they probably won't). To prevent that, we have to hit SAMs in Ukraine, Belarus and Russia. A "No Fly Zone" is effectively a declaration of an air war against Ukraine. They will then be justified in telling their people they are fighting NATO and might even strike Ukraine with a nuke, killing WAY more people than are dying now. Yes, Ukraine will be first on the list, to try to frighten everyone off. After that, if we don't back off, airfields in Poland, etc.

Hard pass on that. I support sending them MiGs, even if they aren't really all that useful, every S-300 we can get our hands on, and drones for taking out artillery.

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Do you support the US enforcing a no fly zone in Ukraine? [View all] ColinC Mar 2022 OP

Still no. It gets harder every day to resist the urge for Wingus Dingus Mar 2022 #1

Pass Ohio Joe Mar 2022 #2

Please watch this video from the 40 minute mark... orwell Mar 2022 #3

+10000000000000000 Celerity Mar 2022 #26

It's far too difficult for me to determine the consequences Torchlight Mar 2022 #4

A no fly zone is you can't fly over the White House. This would be combat NATO against Russia. marie999 Mar 2022 #5

Only if Russia is stupid enough to stay ColinC Mar 2022 #6

And if they stay? What if Russian planes shoot down a couple of American planes? marie999 Mar 2022 #11

They are more likely to attack Poland. Again. They aren't that stupid. ColinC Mar 2022 #18

You don't understand Russian war planning relayerbob Mar 2022 #19

I think this is a problem for many in general DetroitLegalBeagle Mar 2022 #22

EXactly, in fact relayerbob Mar 2022 #28

You're asking the wrong question FakeNoose Mar 2022 #7

How else would you "enforce" a no fly zone? ColinC Mar 2022 #10

That's the point, we cannot declare a "no fly" zone FakeNoose Mar 2022 #20

The "No Fly Zone" is a misleading term relayerbob Mar 2022 #8

How else would you "enforce" a no fly zone? ColinC Mar 2022 #9

You don't have a no fly zone. marie999 Mar 2022 #13

You can't. That's the point relayerbob Mar 2022 #15

Way, way over my pay grade. MineralMan Mar 2022 #12

What previous NATO/ Russia skirmishes? sarisataka Mar 2022 #14

Absolutely no way! RocRizzo55 Mar 2022 #16

Yes HAB911 Mar 2022 #17

It will definitely be later. ColinC Mar 2022 #21

No. BlueTsunami2018 Mar 2022 #23

Hell no. Hard pass on WWIII starting through something this avoidable. Celerity Mar 2022 #24

I don't support the idea of WWIII. Which is REALLY what you're asking. Spider Jerusalem Mar 2022 #25

What previous NATO/Russian military engagements are you referring to? Torchlight Mar 2022 #27

Only asking if anybody agrees with Zelenskyy about the no fly zone. ColinC Mar 2022 #30

I defer to the professionals in charge. Talitha Mar 2022 #29

For me, it's still a hard NO. nt MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2022 #31