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herding cats

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Tue May 3, 2022, 12:15 PM

May 2022

I think too many here default to 2016 and forget it's no longer applicable to that specific rule. It's time we address the fact and discuss the ramifications of 2016 on our democracy and our loss of freedoms now and the ones we're about to lose in the near future. This isn't the end of this fallout, for as bad as this is, and it's horrible, it's still just the beginning.

Politics are a long game of strategy, not a popularity contest, not a cult of personality, and not about what you think you deserve right this moment. Those on the left who fell for the latter and ignored the former in 2016 helped facilitate where we are today. I've been angry at them since Trump won and now I'm to the point of being livid. Everything we said would happen has happened, and even faster than I, personally, anticipated.

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Fuck you Jill Stein and protest voters. Fuck you [View all] Alpeduez21 May 2022 OP

This post was alerted on. nycbos May 2022 #1

Reactions to the shattering loss of Roe & what may follow, should be an acceptable fact. Budi May 2022 #6

everyone is responsible qazplm135 May 2022 #8

Speak for yourself Hekate May 2022 #12

if you think you did everything humanly possible qazplm135 May 2022 #13

I've done what I could NowISeetheLight May 2022 #52

We can all do more qazplm135 May 2022 #70

What then? NowISeetheLight May 2022 #99

if you wrote five letters before qazplm135 May 2022 #102

No to imagining that moral, informed Democratic voters Hortensis May 2022 #84

Can't affect those people qazplm135 May 2022 #98

Everyone is NOT EQUALLY responsible. All the 3rd party pushers pnwmom May 2022 #26

I really don't care about parsing out degrees qazplm135 May 2022 #33

Or you can blame justices Marshall, O'Connor, and Ginsburg AllTooEasy May 2022 #32

Preach it! radicalleft May 2022 #42

The deflecting of responsibility iemanja May 2022 #77

I voted for Democrats mcar May 2022 #54

I worked my ass off to get Clinton elected iemanja May 2022 #75

Fuck this, you have no idea how much work many of us have put in. we can do it May 2022 #76

too bad! electric_blue68 May 2022 #11

Post may not be pretty, but needed to be said. 634-5789 May 2022 #62

it needs to be said constantly And the stupid fucking rule that it can't be said here needs to go! CrackityJones75 May 2022 #68

+1 iemanja May 2022 #72

Fuck whoever alerted on it. we can do it May 2022 #74

I'm curious if it was for "don't keep fighting the last presidential primary" rule? herding cats May 2022 #85

We can talk about HRC 2008 but oh no. No discussion of 2016 even when a topic of 2022. LizBeth May 2022 #89

That's not the stated rule, though. herding cats May 2022 #90

Interesting. First thing this morning was alert on fighting 2016 and said didnt break rules. LizBeth May 2022 #91

My pleasure. herding cats May 2022 #93

You are so damn right on and today I am going to be texting a handful LizBeth May 2022 #94

Even with Comey, Stein, etc., it came down to people pissed their guy lost in primary. Hoyt May 2022 #2

They're all running from that ownership too. Budi May 2022 #7

+1. Hoyt May 2022 #10

And they are talking about everyone being responsible Hav May 2022 #45

Yes empedocles May 2022 #50

Not one them now shouting the cries against stripping of Women's & privacy rights.. Budi May 2022 #114

Indeed inthewind21 May 2022 #111

I would add: DFW May 2022 #30

+1 betsuni May 2022 #39

+1 brer cat May 2022 #51

K & R. Thank You. I see the same ones are all out today blaming Dems & Manchin. Budi May 2022 #66

There will always be those... DFW May 2022 #97

Exactly this. we can do it May 2022 #78

Also buttery males and "both parties are the same" derps. RockRaven May 2022 #3

ummm its the millions of democrats who stayed home u need to blame IMO nt msongs May 2022 #4

That too...damn bran-washed Hillary haters. nt Samrob May 2022 #9

Many of them were misled by the "progressives" like Jill Stein into thinking the Democrat pnwmom May 2022 #27

totally agree gopiscrap May 2022 #5

Once I start remembering all the moronic "she gave a paid speech at Goldman Sachs" betsuni May 2022 #14

This JustAnotherGen May 2022 #101

In about four months we need for them to vote with us questionseverything May 2022 #15

They need to learn their lesson. W_HAMILTON May 2022 #34

+1 betsuni May 2022 #38

Fuck the crybaby bullshit egos. we can do it May 2022 #79

Everyone...thought Hillary would win. Which she did in raw votes Laura PourMeADrink May 2022 #16

I bet they don't. I bet they still think they'd won if only they'd won the primary. n/t pnwmom May 2022 #28

Granted, it's anecdotal, but such people... OneGrassRoot May 2022 #81

Jill Stein works for Putin. Quixote1818 May 2022 #17

Exactly. Bought and paid for. yardwork May 2022 #48

Relitgating 2016 is about as constructive as whining about Manchin and Sinema TheRealNorth May 2022 #18

Because it is impossible... orwell May 2022 #20

Spent HOURS trying to convince a male friend not to vote for Stein, and failed. He allegorical oracle May 2022 #47

50 years of effort by the GOP to overturn Roe and your analysis is Jill fucking Stein? Duncan Grant May 2022 #19

My uber leftist brother voted for Jill Fucking Stein... orwell May 2022 #21

Well, thank your brother for the current Supreme Court (and minority rule). Duncan Grant May 2022 #23

It's not Jill Stein's fault but it's her fucking brother's? W_HAMILTON May 2022 #36

Wha? Duh? (nt) Duncan Grant May 2022 #41

Yes, her brother's lone vote mattered more... W_HAMILTON May 2022 #44

Not Stein's brother, poster #21's brother (Orwell). Duncan Grant May 2022 #71

was he in a close state? pstokely May 2022 #105

A Republican wouldn't have been in a position to do this... W_HAMILTON May 2022 #35

+1 betsuni May 2022 #40

You really dont get it. honest.abe May 2022 #59

Not all 3rd party votes are 'progressives'. Duncan Grant May 2022 #82

This message was self-deleted by its author tinrobot May 2022 #87

The enemy of good enough are not the problem Lithos May 2022 #22

it started in 2000, when R's used the big court to pick a winner W RANDYWILDMAN May 2022 #24

The U.S. experienced a coup in 2000 and nobody talks about it. yardwork May 2022 #49

+1 leftstreet May 2022 #103

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2022 #25

Do not forget Susan Sarandon LetMyPeopleVote May 2022 #29

And fucking tulsi gabbard. we can do it May 2022 #80

Its so infuriating remembering back then. honest.abe May 2022 #31

Those people don't care about abortion Rights . They are Happy with this as they see it as sticking JI7 May 2022 #37

"Identity politics" mocking: "It is not good enough for someone to say 'I'm a woman! Vote for me!'" betsuni May 2022 #43

Yes indeed Patton French May 2022 #46

Agree completely mcar May 2022 #53

Protest voters are happy now that they achieved their goal of stripping rights from women. Politicub May 2022 #55

100% NT Happy Hoosier May 2022 #56

Blaming it all on third party kooks conveniently takes the focus off the Democratic Party Mysterian May 2022 #57

What's wrong with the Democratic Party? betsuni May 2022 #58

That's obtuse. Act_of_Reparation May 2022 #60

How? betsuni May 2022 #63

Campaigning is salesmanship. Act_of_Reparation May 2022 #96

Well then inthewind21 May 2022 #112

Dude, what planet do you live on? Act_of_Reparation May 2022 #119

You miss the overall point. honest.abe May 2022 #64

No, they're not on our side Mysterian May 2022 #106

"They" normally agree with "us" on major issues like abortion rights. honest.abe May 2022 #108

100%. And I'll throw into the mix everyone who can't seem to find it in their... SKKY May 2022 #61

And the "both parties are the same" assholes. Them too. Aristus May 2022 #65

yep. Oh but you can't say that here. CrackityJones75 May 2022 #67

I totally agree and I don't know why you were "alerted on." If the votes that were wasted Vinca May 2022 #69

Yes, same sex marriage is next. herding cats May 2022 #92

Fuck every single vanity voter. Fuck your egos. we can do it May 2022 #73

Fuck all of you who sat out 2016 because you didn't LIKE Hillary Novara May 2022 #83

In 2016 it was going to be Hillary or Hair Twitler Martin Eden May 2022 #86

Add some Nader voters to that list. tinrobot May 2022 #88

In particular all the white women who made this happen ismnotwasm May 2022 #95

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While I sympathize - jimlup May 2022 #104

The 'fools' gave R's the electoral votes. Budi May 2022 #117

If you fixate on that we will lose jimlup May 2022 #121

Ya. Bullshit from the , "it's not our fault, It's now the DEMOCRATS fault!" Budi May 2022 #122

Really? You actually think I care? jimlup May 2022 #126

The electorate was lost by the same #'s of Stein votes. Budi May 2022 #127

Form the circular firing squad and blame the left, every time Spider Jerusalem May 2022 #107

Stein's Lies Played a BIG Part in this Cha May 2022 #109

No inthewind21 May 2022 #113

Truth is Truth.. Jill Stein's Lies RF Cha May 2022 #125

Bye. Budi May 2022 #116

They never were going to vote Democrat in the 1st place. Budi May 2022 #118

And, it wasn't even "perfect".. Stein LIED Cha May 2022 #110

K&R! Nixie May 2022 #115

Exactly.. Stein's & Sarandon's Lies... Cha May 2022 #120

Hi Cha! Nixie May 2022 #123

yes, If Not for RF's Lies it would have Cha May 2022 #124