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WhiskeyGrinder

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22. Whew, lotta garbage here.

Reply to TreasonousBastard (Original post)

Sun Jul 17, 2022, 10:21 AM

Jul 2022

A mother of three who is inundated with school concerns and baby showers is not likely to be terribly concerned by many of our arguments.

If a mother of three gets her mom, her sibling and a friend in a room during one of those baby showers, statistically at least one of them has had an abortion.

Everyone knows someone who has had an abortion

She will more likely be receptive to arguments concerning health of the mother and rape and incest but turn her back on other arguments concerning rights, and choice.

Nope, research has found that normalizing abortion stories -- the ones you dismiss as "birth control" -- are the best way for friends and neighbors to learn about abortion from each other.

Men, it seems, seem to favor abortion as a solution to an unplanned pregnancy and are not necessarily the enemy.

"Not necessarily the enemy," what on earth.

abortion as a means of birth control,

No matter *why* a person gets an abortion, it is always a form of "birth control" -- it ensures a birth does not happen. More than half the people who get abortions are also on some other form of birth control. Do some reading and get these right-wing tropes out of your discourse.

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Abortion, not so simple, after all... [View all] TreasonousBastard Jul 2022 OP

Good advise. multigraincracker Jul 2022 #1

JFC. No, my sovereignty over my body is not "gray." Scrivener7 Jul 2022 #3

Post removed Post removed Jul 2022 #6

Are you fucking kidding me? Do you have any idea how disgusting that post is in Scrivener7 Jul 2022 #8

This discussion is about rights. And rights are always limited. TreasonousBastard Jul 2022 #9

I really don't think you understand how clearly you have just broadcast Scrivener7 Jul 2022 #11

+1 MrsCoffee Jul 2022 #15

Like suicide, multigraincracker Jul 2022 #10

It's not like suicide. Because if they take away the means for abortion, everyone is not free Scrivener7 Jul 2022 #31

There are gray areas for most people per the data shown karynnj Jul 2022 #43

*sigh* We must understand and respect WHY they want to crawl into my uterus! Scrivener7 Jul 2022 #2

We haven't even touched on recreational abortions... ret5hd Jul 2022 #5

Sometimes I do my nails, sometimes I have an abortion. Depends on the mood. Scrivener7 Jul 2022 #7

Great advice SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2022 #4

The polling data is likely accurate and has been consistent for years. SharonClark Jul 2022 #20

I agree SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2022 #23

Well, that was why Roe v Wade was the compromise. SharonClark Jul 2022 #26

Agree 100% n/t SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2022 #27

The cases where they tend to want it banned are Bettie Jul 2022 #37

Maybe stop framing abortion as "a means of birth control" blogslug Jul 2022 #12

OK, boys. If you are wondering if you are a guy who really doesn't Scrivener7 Jul 2022 #13

Fuck this noise. MrsCoffee Jul 2022 #14

I seriously can't even belieeeve you trotted out the "abortion as a means of birth control" bullshit dixiechiken1 Jul 2022 #16

What? claudette Jul 2022 #17

Point 1: 37% is not 'nearly half'... Bettie Jul 2022 #18

+1000 chowder66 Jul 2022 #33

FFS - "60% are at least uncomfortable with abortion as a means of birth control" SharonClark Jul 2022 #19

It's actually very simple. DLevine Jul 2022 #21

This. Perfect. The end. Scrivener7 Jul 2022 #30

This! chowder66 Jul 2022 #35

Yep Bettie Jul 2022 #38

Whew, lotta garbage here. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2022 #22

61% is not a quandary. 37% is not almost half. CrispyQ Jul 2022 #24

I will add... SharonClark Jul 2022 #25

There's no reason to yell, but wrong headed is wrong headed. KentuckyWoman Jul 2022 #28

I'm sorry, this is a disingenuous presentation of the data Grolph_ Jul 2022 #29

This is a fucking bullshit article and should not be posted...67% agree abortion should legal Demsrule86 Jul 2022 #32

Never met or heard of anyone who uses abortion as birth control people Jul 2022 #34

The phrase itself is meant to get a knee-jerk reaction. But abortion is exactly birth control -- it WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2022 #39

When people speak of abortion as birth control SharonClark Jul 2022 #44

I can simplify the issue very easily PlanetBev Jul 2022 #36

Thank you! Sky Jewels Jul 2022 #42

To placate around 8% of the population the GrOPpers are going all in? Hugin Jul 2022 #40

What a POS post. ... It actually is very simple. Sky Jewels Jul 2022 #41

That's why messaging matters EnergizedLib Jul 2022 #45

I'm in the 19 pct. roamer65 Jul 2022 #46