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Novara

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22. In many ways it's actually worse than pre-Roe.

Tue Jul 19, 2022, 12:12 PM

Jul 2022

At least back then a woman could get a D & C for a dead fetus. A woman could get a medically-necessary abortion in order to save her life.

What happens when the first woman dies because she was not allowed a life-saving abortion and her family sues? The lawsuit would be an unintended consequence - for the hospital and doctor who treated her.

And that brings me to this question: why are we not seeing doctors and hospitals speaking out against this barbarism? They stand to be held liable when they choose not to save a woman's life, even in states where abortion is outlawed, because Biden said they have to give life-saving abortions.

Can he issue that in an executive order, does anybody know?

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They are NOT unintended consequences [View all] momta Jul 2022 OP

Yep - I think of this whenever I hear the phrase "exceptional country" - exceptionally stupid walkingman Jul 2022 #1

Since everything trump touches dies, it would follow that his followers could too. And since housecat Jul 2022 #11

Problem is, he has a lot of young followers too. oldsoftie Jul 2022 #13

seriously? not disinformation? young and educated for trump? housecat Jul 2022 #47

Yes. I deal with them every day. Highly educated. Professionals. oldsoftie Jul 2022 #50

Come to think of it I dealt with them before I retired. They seemed so unhinged that housecat Jul 2022 #54

I think it will surprise a lot of people in the wider community (ie not activists) genxlib Jul 2022 #2

And even assaults & murder. To try to keep it quiet oldsoftie Jul 2022 #14

Your turning "outlaw" speaks to millions of citizens Eyeball_Kid Jul 2022 #3

Cruelty, pain, suffering, death are all part of their plan. Irish_Dem Jul 2022 #4

Sadly agree Timeflyer Jul 2022 #9

Agree completely. Their wrathful God of retribution demands harsh punishment. sop Jul 2022 #33

Oh yes. All of us non-GOP folks apparently are deep sinners who must be punished. Irish_Dem Jul 2022 #44

If (forced) pregnancy risks death, is that not attempted murder? Nictuku Jul 2022 #5

Yes! momta Jul 2022 #6

The digital age will insure the horror stories reach the general public, unlike the past. CrispyQ Jul 2022 #7

Only shithole third world countries do this shit. onecaliberal Jul 2022 #8

Shithole third world theocracies. sop Jul 2022 #34

👆🏻👆🏻 onecaliberal Jul 2022 #38

I do think that there are some older men who are totally naive regarding childbirth. milestogo Jul 2022 #10

She's probably thinking, "I got through this seven times, with no problem," Wednesdays Jul 2022 #12

Just like those who caught covid & had no problems. "Its just the flu". oldsoftie Jul 2022 #15

Its exactly like that. milestogo Jul 2022 #18

You'd think that TENTS in hospital PARKING LOTS would be enough. oldsoftie Jul 2022 #48

Well, people who live in rural areas didn't see the same things. milestogo Jul 2022 #51

I wish she would watch my video... momta Jul 2022 #23

They are human sacrifices to the Christian god Farmer-Rick Jul 2022 #16

Christians believe that the death of Christ was the only sacrifice required. milestogo Jul 2022 #29

All true but the case that they advocate "the potential for death by inaction" could be made. jaxexpat Jul 2022 #40

How are you so sure? Farmer-Rick Jul 2022 #42

Power. It's all about power. orthoclad Jul 2022 #17

THIS! momta Jul 2022 #19

It gave men the power to maim and kill us under the guise of "it's natural." Warpy Jul 2022 #20

"harshest their mellow" momta Jul 2022 #21

I stole it from "WKRP in Cincinnatti" Warpy Jul 2022 #25

In many ways it's actually worse than pre-Roe. Novara Jul 2022 #22

He issued a "guidance" saying that federal law trumps state law momta Jul 2022 #26

I know that. My question is whether this can be issued as an EO. Novara Jul 2022 #27

I'm with you. momta Jul 2022 #30

Exactly Novara Jul 2022 #32

I agree. momta Jul 2022 #36

He used his worst obstructionism on Obama Novara Jul 2022 #37

Amen, sisters Hekate Jul 2022 #24

Republicans know women will die dlk Jul 2022 #28

In fact... momta Jul 2022 #31

Yes, the cruelty is the point dlk Jul 2022 #49

Either they're cemented in denial, or they suffer from calimary Jul 2022 #35

Killing women is a given. It's a feature, not a bug. onecaliberal Jul 2022 #39

DEFINITELY! So they know what's possible to restore calimary Jul 2022 #43

K&R Solly Mack Jul 2022 #41

End game IMHO is dumb workers for the rich who will do anything even for scraps. Brainfodder Jul 2022 #45

The cruelty and the barbarity is the point...nt Wounded Bear Jul 2022 #46

pre roe, chicago's cook county hospital, the largest public hosp in the country had a whole ward mopinko Jul 2022 #52

The outlaw court, the Subversive 6, tries to rewrite the Constitution in their image Hermit-The-Prog Jul 2022 #53