In many ways it's actually worse than pre-Roe. (Reply #22)

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Tue Jul 19, 2022, 12:12 PM

Novara (4,771 posts)

22. In many ways it's actually worse than pre-Roe.

At least back then a woman could get a D & C for a dead fetus. A woman could get a medically-necessary abortion in order to save her life.

What happens when the first woman dies because she was not allowed a life-saving abortion and her family sues? The lawsuit would be an unintended consequence - for the hospital and doctor who treated her.

And that brings me to this question: why are we not seeing doctors and hospitals speaking out against this barbarism? They stand to be held liable when they choose not to save a woman's life, even in states where abortion is outlawed, because Biden said they have to give life-saving abortions.

Can he issue that in an executive order, does anybody know?

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54 replies	Author	Time	Post
They are NOT unintended consequences [View all]	momta	Jul 2022	OP
Yep - I think of this whenever I hear the phrase "exceptional country" - exceptionally stupid	walkingman	Jul 2022	#1
Since everything trump touches dies, it would follow that his followers could too. And since	housecat	Jul 2022	#11
Problem is, he has a lot of young followers too.	oldsoftie	Jul 2022	#13
seriously? not disinformation? young and educated for trump?	housecat	Jul 2022	#47
Yes. I deal with them every day. Highly educated. Professionals.	oldsoftie	Jul 2022	#50
Come to think of it I dealt with them before I retired. They seemed so unhinged that	housecat	Jul 2022	#54
I think it will surprise a lot of people in the wider community (ie not activists)	genxlib	Jul 2022	#2
And even assaults & murder. To try to keep it quiet	oldsoftie	Jul 2022	#14
Your turning "outlaw" speaks to millions of citizens	Eyeball_Kid	Jul 2022	#3
Cruelty, pain, suffering, death are all part of their plan.	Irish_Dem	Jul 2022	#4
Sadly agree	Timeflyer	Jul 2022	#9
Agree completely. Their wrathful God of retribution demands harsh punishment.	sop	Jul 2022	#33
Oh yes. All of us non-GOP folks apparently are deep sinners who must be punished.	Irish_Dem	Jul 2022	#44
If (forced) pregnancy risks death, is that not attempted murder?	Nictuku	Jul 2022	#5
Yes!	momta	Jul 2022	#6
The digital age will insure the horror stories reach the general public, unlike the past.	CrispyQ	Jul 2022	#7
Only shithole third world countries do this shit.	onecaliberal	Jul 2022	#8
Shithole third world theocracies.	sop	Jul 2022	#34
👆🏻👆🏻	onecaliberal	Jul 2022	#38
I do think that there are some older men who are totally naive regarding childbirth.	milestogo	Jul 2022	#10
She's probably thinking, "I got through this seven times, with no problem,"	Wednesdays	Jul 2022	#12
Just like those who caught covid & had no problems. "Its just the flu".	oldsoftie	Jul 2022	#15
Its exactly like that.	milestogo	Jul 2022	#18
You'd think that TENTS in hospital PARKING LOTS would be enough.	oldsoftie	Jul 2022	#48
Well, people who live in rural areas didn't see the same things.	milestogo	Jul 2022	#51
I wish she would watch my video...	momta	Jul 2022	#23
They are human sacrifices to the Christian god	Farmer-Rick	Jul 2022	#16
Christians believe that the death of Christ was the only sacrifice required.	milestogo	Jul 2022	#29
All true but the case that they advocate "the potential for death by inaction" could be made.	jaxexpat	Jul 2022	#40
How are you so sure?	Farmer-Rick	Jul 2022	#42
Power. It's all about power.	orthoclad	Jul 2022	#17
THIS!	momta	Jul 2022	#19
It gave men the power to maim and kill us under the guise of "it's natural."	Warpy	Jul 2022	#20
"harshest their mellow"	momta	Jul 2022	#21
I stole it from "WKRP in Cincinnatti"	Warpy	Jul 2022	#25
In many ways it's actually worse than pre-Roe.	Novara	Jul 2022	#22
He issued a "guidance" saying that federal law trumps state law	momta	Jul 2022	#26
I know that. My question is whether this can be issued as an EO.	Novara	Jul 2022	#27
I'm with you.	momta	Jul 2022	#30
Exactly	Novara	Jul 2022	#32
I agree.	momta	Jul 2022	#36
He used his worst obstructionism on Obama	Novara	Jul 2022	#37
Amen, sisters	Hekate	Jul 2022	#24
Republicans know women will die	dlk	Jul 2022	#28
In fact...	momta	Jul 2022	#31
Yes, the cruelty is the point	dlk	Jul 2022	#49
Either they're cemented in denial, or they suffer from	calimary	Jul 2022	#35
Killing women is a given. It's a feature, not a bug.	onecaliberal	Jul 2022	#39
DEFINITELY! So they know what's possible to restore	calimary	Jul 2022	#43
K&R	Solly Mack	Jul 2022	#41
End game IMHO is dumb workers for the rich who will do anything even for scraps.	Brainfodder	Jul 2022	#45
The cruelty and the barbarity is the point...nt	Wounded Bear	Jul 2022	#46
pre roe, chicago's cook county hospital, the largest public hosp in the country had a whole ward	mopinko	Jul 2022	#52
The outlaw court, the Subversive 6, tries to rewrite the Constitution in their image	Hermit-The-Prog	Jul 2022	#53

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