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grantcart

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20. How familiar are you with Russian/Soviet history?
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 01:43 AM
Sep 2022

Last edited Mon Sep 19, 2022, 11:35 AM - Edit history (1)

Both Czarist Russia and The Soviet Union lost their legitimacy and we're overtaken by the eruption of flash points that went country wide very quickly. Once the regime was seen as having a crack in the veneer then all of the pent up frustration explodes nationwide.

In 1905 a single isolated incident showed the country that the Czar was fallible. The Czar lost absolute rule, a people's Duma took over legislative control and ten years later Imperial Russia collapsed with hardly a shot fired.

At the end of the SU the elimination of the Berlin Wall showed the vulnerabilities of the central government and spontaneous public demonstrations brought down the government.

What triggered the first Russian Revolution of 1905?

The mutiny of a single ship, the Potemkin.

Why did they mutiny? Russia refused negotiations with Japan and Japan attacked Russia. Russia moved it's most experienced officers to the war in the Pacific. After Russia began losing key battles morale in the ships in the west plummetted.

What was the last straw on Potemkin?

The morning Borscht had maggots. The ship mutinied and went to Romania and nationwide strikes erupted.

I have witnessed a half dozen coups and it doesn't take much in a country where power goes from top to bottom to trigger an eruption. The most important person in maintaining stability in Russia tomorrow morning is the mid level officers who commands the loyalty of the tanks kept in the barracks around Moscow. Once the tanks roll in the capital there is almost no turning back. You can bet that officer is a personal favorite of Putin and will never see action in Ukraine.

Putin has exposed the weakness of his military LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2022 #1
Enter China, now that Putin pantsed Russia. TheBlackAdder Sep 2022 #7
Is that where the song title comes from? COL Mustard Sep 2022 #10
Putin on the fritz nt Wicked Blue Sep 2022 #12
The fact that he's cleaned out the prisons to get soldiers Warpy Sep 2022 #14
This is such good news. AllyCat Sep 2022 #2
This is encouraging. lpbk2713 Sep 2022 #3
Oh I'm quite sure the Ukrainian troops are keeping that in mind MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2022 #5
Here's hoping.... SergeStorms Sep 2022 #4
The Mighty and Macho Russian Army praised by Cruz (never served) and MTG while denigrating American keithbvadu2 Sep 2022 #6
Slava Ukraini! Thank you for the update. niyad Sep 2022 #8
The last formed divisions that were sent to reinforce Kharkiv grantcart Sep 2022 #9
"Urban unrest"? maxsolomon Sep 2022 #16
How familiar are you with Russian/Soviet history? grantcart Sep 2022 #20
Thanks for the history lesson, grantcart! femmedem Sep 2022 #24
I didn't mean historically. maxsolomon Sep 2022 #25
You mean beside the St. Petersburg Council members charging Putin with Treason? grantcart Sep 2022 #26
I'm not missing your point. maxsolomon Sep 2022 #28
New Russian Front: keeping Putin in the Kremlin. Nt OAITW r.2.0 Sep 2022 #17
💛 Glory to Ukraine! 💙 nt Raine Sep 2022 #11
Looks like Putin opened a can of this MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2022 #13
So what does Putin do now...save face? BigmanPigman Sep 2022 #15
His only option is to declare victory and leave. grantcart Sep 2022 #21
That is one way to "save face" BigmanPigman Sep 2022 #22
It won't be enough especially if he loses Donrtsk grantcart Sep 2022 #23
The Russians are now gonna be left with only .. Botany Sep 2022 #18
And it's 1...2...3... moondust Sep 2022 #19
UK analysts have now concluded that Russia has lost Air Superiority. grantcart Sep 2022 #27
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