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Botany

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17. "I see no good way out of the mess we are in."

Wed Oct 26, 2022, 10:13 AM

Oct 2022

Suggestions:

Support high quality public education

Get rid of the electoral college

Presidential elections should only be 6 months soup to nuts

National high speed internet every where

Plant native plants

All voting should be on paper ballots ... either mail in or in person

Get the dark money out of politics.

Make it illegal to put out proven lies and call yourself news.

Read Doug Tallamy and Peter Wohlleben (the hidden life of trees) books

Increase voter turn out

Call out those Christo Fascist mother fuckers for who they are.

People should understand that most of tomatoes that are picked very late in the season
will get some kind of bacterial crap and not turn ripe and edible

Understand that the environment, energy, and the economy should be treated as one issue.

And expose all of the Trump/Russia connections along with all those shits who went along with
the coups of installing Trump in 2016 and the one on 1/6/21

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I think just about all of these debates are useless exerices. They really do not make a difference. [View all] Botany Oct 2022 OP

Yep. secondwind Oct 2022 #1

537 votes out of almost six million cast (0.009%) Lochloosa Oct 2022 #2

That's where the USSC stopped the count. Bush was sworn in, Meadowoak Oct 2022 #4

I highly doubt Gore won by a million votes. Lochloosa Oct 2022 #7

The Miami Herald finished the count, that's what they reported. Meadowoak Oct 2022 #16

Well, it's complicated ITAL Oct 2022 #19

And I believe 911 had just happened, so the whole thing got Meadowoak Oct 2022 #20

The U.S. Supreme Court and removing 50,000 to 90,000 black voters* from voting "won FL for w." Botany Oct 2022 #6

I would think John Ludi Oct 2022 #3

The 2020 election had record turnout with 67% of Phoenix61 Oct 2022 #5

People that turn out have already made their decision. Especially Oz vs Fetterman. Just vote! Stuart G Oct 2022 #8

I believe they do make a difference... Chakaconcarne Oct 2022 #9

but it does not matter. facts are pretty much dead, thanks to decades of propaganda by NewHendoLib Oct 2022 #11

it matters for visuals too. newdayneeded Oct 2022 #26

I agree. Good article about this on Slate - see link below NewHendoLib Oct 2022 #10

Thank You! That article makes my point much better then me. Botany Oct 2022 #13

the extreme polarization and propaganda has created a cemented NewHendoLib Oct 2022 #15

"I see no good way out of the mess we are in." Botany Oct 2022 #17

Yes...but I see no way making those happen in this climate NewHendoLib Oct 2022 #22

"The extreme polarization" of America was Putin's goal in installing Trump Botany Oct 2022 #18

Indeed. NewHendoLib Oct 2022 #21

Maybe he didn't do so good, might cost him the election GusBob Oct 2022 #12

Yes they do, MOST times it's the first time someone sees a candidate uponit7771 Oct 2022 #14

If even 1,000 voters are influenced then it's worth it. Elessar Zappa Oct 2022 #23

A republican friend of mine saw the first Trump vs. Biden debate. She thought T's behavior was so Earth-shine Oct 2022 #24

There is very little that can be learned from a debate stage performance. BlueIdaho Oct 2022 #25

I get what you're saying Mad_Machine76 Oct 2022 #27