that can't be measured and proven, just a strong belief that doesn't require proof. Secular, religious, some other form of spirituality all variations.
Okay to the damage humans are doing, can't deny. But although nonhuman species differ from humans in their ability to wipe out species around the world, they're significant for their COMPLETE, species-wide indifference to the damage they do, simply not capable of caring. And in reality, animals are often able to wipe out whole species and destroying the ecosystems in their own regions, and do, but they can't be aware, can't feel guilt, can't care about other species. Some people do.
A most basic difference in our approaches, though, is that I don't see the animal world in terms of nonhuman animals versus human, but as creatures that are all what they are, all deserving of life. And I'm not misanthropic, zero inclination to define all humans by the worst of us and stop there. (Btw, how is that different from defining one race of people only by a minority of its lowest, most depraved members?)
So, nice conversation but mostly nonintersecting lines of thought on this one. Next time. Have a nice evening.
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