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localroger

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39. There is the "Sister's Keeper" argument
Wed Jul 17, 2024, 06:52 PM
Jul 2024

There have been a case or two where a child was deliberately conceived to be an organ donor for a sibling for whom no donor was available; this was fictionalized in the book and movie where the donor child sues in her late pre-teens to emancipate herself and take control of the medical juggernaut that has been railroading her toward donating her designer organs to save her sister's life. The story is neatly wrapped up when the donor wins her court case but then dies of other causes, becoming a donor more conventionally, and I don't believe the legal question of whether such a child actually owns her own organs has ever really been definitely answered in court. So while it seems like a cut and dried question whether you have final ownership over your own organs, there are circumstances where even ordinary people might be tempted to make an exception if your attitude toward a purpose is insufficiently noble. Do we really believe that the bodily autonomy of a child is as important as a decade of medical prep, hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars, and the life she was created to save when she wouldn't even exist if she hadn't been deliberately created to serve this purpose? And if the answer is "no," that is one damn slippery slope we've just taken a step on.

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He forgot to add, the important thing is that the women suffer punishment Walleye Jul 2024 #1
Repackage the same 💩 but it says the same thing. Deuxcents Jul 2024 #2
A new frame. Turbineguy Jul 2024 #3
Let's see them try to reframe a life-threatening ectopic pregnancy Wicked Blue Jul 2024 #4
Will all fathers be equally responsible for the child from pregnancy to adulthood? bullimiami Jul 2024 #5
Then you fucking have the baby, you GD monster. Let's force you to endur something equally traumatic. hlthe2b Jul 2024 #6
The word you are looking for is elastrator. localroger Jul 2024 #9
It is called an emasculator--used on bulls and boars. I was just being sensitive to some here. hlthe2b Jul 2024 #19
Elastrator is yet another device that does the same job localroger Jul 2024 #37
Yes, but used on smaller (usually younger) animals. Considered cruel by many because of the high chance of hlthe2b Jul 2024 #38
Filling them with the fruit of our nation? Frasier Balzov Jul 2024 #7
The baby farms on Battlestar Galactica were all about the babies, too. tanyev Jul 2024 #8
Let's play at reframing.....do non-citizens have Maeve Jul 2024 #10
It's a potential male, so yes, it would have more rights than the "weaker vessel," women. n/t valleyrogue Jul 2024 #12
Project 2025 wants to amend the Constitution whathehell Jul 2024 #29
Also, forced birth violates a woman's 13th Amendment rights. CrispyQ Jul 2024 #59
I have been saying this for decades now Tumbulu Jul 2024 #61
Well done! soldierant Jul 2024 #65
According to this MRA neckbeard, valleyrogue Jul 2024 #11
THIS. In MAGA mentality, women serve the needs of men. B.See Jul 2024 #31
Hey ladies! JD Vance wants to do the thinkin' for ya.... Blue Owl Jul 2024 #13
No one is required by law to give up their bodily autonomy for another person ProfessorPlum Jul 2024 #14
Very good argument cpamomfromtexas Jul 2024 #17
There is the "Sister's Keeper" argument localroger Jul 2024 #39
Well said, and well thought nuxvomica Jul 2024 #63
exactly - well put ProfessorPlum Jul 2024 #64
Women are forced to give up their autonomy for this. CrispyQ Jul 2024 #66
Proceed, Senator. Baitball Blogger Jul 2024 #15
So how about picking up the tab and PAYING HER cpamomfromtexas Jul 2024 #16
Not only is THAT not even a consideration, bluesbassman Jul 2024 #22
In the large majority of abortions there is no baby. SamKnause Jul 2024 #18
Does this work both ways? LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2024 #20
"WE "just" need to reframe the idea...". "Just!?" We're NOT your broodmares, effer! electric_blue68 Jul 2024 #21
Would he still feel that way if his wife or one day his daughter Blaukraut Jul 2024 #23
He'll still SAY the same throwback sht, but THEY never do B.See Jul 2024 #34
Sorry, JD, there ain't enough lipstick for that pig. n/t Xavier Breath Jul 2024 #24
It isn't a baby until it is BORN........! DemocraticPatriot Jul 2024 #25
Fuck that shit! GPV Jul 2024 #26
"And we need to reframe slavery to be about the rights of the business owner! unblock Jul 2024 #27
Well, you must have read Project 2025. haele Jul 2024 #58
It's apparently what a large portion of Merica' wants. NoMoreRepugs Jul 2024 #28
So Vance is willing to pay for the woman's healthcare? Ritabert Jul 2024 #30
Spraying rose water on shit gets you nothing but rose water on shit. The shit is still shit. Solly Mack Jul 2024 #32
someone who calls rape resulting in pregnancy "somehow inconvenient" DBoon Jul 2024 #33
That's right! Freedom Hatching is much better! Bristlecone Jul 2024 #35
Fuck you, JD, you misogynist piece of shit. You don't have a clue what you're talking about. Diamond_Dog Jul 2024 #36
It's not inconvenient to "SOCIETY" -- in GOP-land, we are each ON OUR OWN, mom gets all the medical bills lostnfound Jul 2024 #40
Yep, that's the babies are innocent meme. But babies CAN and DO create HUGE problems Model35mech Jul 2024 #41
Let's reframe it to include the death penalty for rapists. And mandatory vasectomies for all males at 18. flying_wahini Jul 2024 #42
The vasectomies should be earlier than 18 but otherwise seems rurallib Jul 2024 #55
How Gilead of him. Silver Gaia Jul 2024 #43
Is it time for a "Bernard Shaw" question karynnj Jul 2024 #44
"It's not that our sadistic policies suck - it's our MESSAGING that's the problem!!!" hatrack Jul 2024 #45
Hey Asshole:How about making birth control very widely available, how about paying for all child care costs, how about.. Dorn Jul 2024 #46
it's not markie Jul 2024 #47
"inconvenient"? What a stupid fuck. StarryNite Jul 2024 #48
"somewhat inconvenient" CTyankee Jul 2024 #49
Hey, yahoo, it is convicted felon FORMER president. niyad Jul 2024 #50
Twice impeached. Klarkashton Jul 2024 #51
He has some choice quotes for ads SamuelTheThird Jul 2024 #52
Time to repost Monty Python's classic: barbaraann Jul 2024 #53
Was he the one that said, "The revolution will be bloodless if liberals would just let it happen"? Beartracks Jul 2024 #54
A new frame around a turd is still a shitty picture... Wounded Bear Jul 2024 #56
If it was about the babies... CrispyQ Jul 2024 #57
What a piece of shit! Initech Jul 2024 #60
The modern republican party Colorado Liberal Jul 2024 #62
Why JD Vance's record on abortion rights matters in 2024 race LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2024 #67
"Reframe The Idea" TicketyBoo Jul 2024 #68
So I expect the press to ask every GOP what they plan to do to help the babies Old Crank Jul 2024 #69
Just like you need to reframe canetoad Jul 2024 #70
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