In the discussion thread: We the people have already lost. [View all]
Response to graham4anything (Reply #1)
Sun Dec 9, 2012, 11:23 AM
MadHound (34,179 posts)
4. Please don't insult my intelligence by telling me to see a movie in order to learn anything,
Please don't patronize me and assume that I don't know the role that compromise plays in any negotiation.
Please don't imply that I'm either somehow stupid, naive, or inexperienced. I'm none of those, being well above normal intelligence, and having experienced politics from inside of the bubble, far more than the vast majority of people. What I am trying to tell you, and others, is that we don't have to be locked into this devil's deal of trading cuts in human services and cuts in our social safety net in exchange for raising the tax rates on the rich. We don't, and frankly if that's all we have to offer, we shouldn't. About the only thing that truly needs to be done before the end of the year is fixing the Alternative Minimum Tax patch, that's it. Other than that, we can go right over that fiscal cliff, and it would be better for us if we did so, at least if the devil's deal is our only alternative. Again, a victory for the Democratic party in this case is not a victory for the American people. 'Scuse me if I think that a win for the people is more important than a win for the party. |
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