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GopherGal

(2,401 posts)
49. There's a cartoon going around
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 12:59 PM
Oct 2024

with a person peeking into a baby carriage and asking "Is it a boy? Or property of the state?"

That prompted me to think - presuming the state* does have an interest in reproductive activities, at what age do they take ownership of little girls? Immediately at birth? (since baby girls have all the eggs they will ever have when they're at about 20 wks gestation in their mothers' wombs) Or is it just when a girl has her first period? (and is, presumably, capable of bearing children). Or is it when she becomes sexually active? (and therefore a potential forced incubator.)

* "the state" seems to mean "our society" to some and "the economy" to others. Even taking it to mean "our society" (the more Democratic viewpoint, I believe), does not mean society's interest overrides the individual's rights. I find the "forced kidney donation" example from the opinion to be an interesting gender-neutral example here.

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Link to the order: Ocelot II Sep 2024 #1
Thanks, Ocelot II for the link. I was having technical problems with that! Jrose Sep 2024 #24
Yes! Thank you! ❤️ littlemissmartypants Sep 2024 #33
Whatever has happened to the Fulton County case? Sogo Sep 2024 #38
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 UpInArms Oct 2024 #42
This is awesome. liberalmuse Sep 2024 #2
This is so great! Timeflyer Sep 2024 #3
Wow! DET Sep 2024 #4
I always wonder how any normal person does that. efhmc Sep 2024 #6
The judge has a way with understanding Tweedy Sep 2024 #9
No kidding! ☹️ For those of us who practice "woo" white light this good judge, his workplace, home, and family. electric_blue68 Sep 2024 #21
Excellent quote. efhmc Sep 2024 #5
Finally! A jurist who understands autonomy and the right to privacy Tweedy Sep 2024 #7
I hope many of us in this country will remember 2024 as the turning point Jrose Sep 2024 #34
So well said. Can we replace one of our current SC Justices with this person? ms liberty Sep 2024 #8
I think he just interviewed for the job cpamomfromtexas Oct 2024 #50
Oh hell yeah AmBlue Sep 2024 #10
The 19th amendment was necessary! dickthegrouch Oct 2024 #48
"during this period when the fetus cannot survive outside the womb" Okay, so what happens at "viability"? WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2024 #11
It's basically the same result as Roe v. Wade. Ocelot II Sep 2024 #14
Which is why I say that Roe is the floor and we have to do better with whatever comes next. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2024 #15
Totally agree LearnedHand Sep 2024 #20
At that point I think it becomes a medical decision with a physician. Joinfortmill Sep 2024 #28
Yes. Tweedy Sep 2024 #22
Agreed lonely bird Oct 2024 #44
Absolute bs Tweedy Oct 2024 #53
If the fetus is viable then it's called a birth VMA131Marine Sep 2024 #35
. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2024 #37
when i offered to take a friend to get a abortion in the 70s... samnsara Oct 2024 #43
Can we charge Rethug politicians with practicing medicine without a license? Seinan Sensei Sep 2024 #12
Yes!!! Demovictory9 Sep 2024 #13
Finally someone put into words senseandsensibility Sep 2024 #16
"Oh, noes!!! rubbersole Sep 2024 #17
I think that when President Harris is looking for candidates to fill new SCOTUS positions, flashman13 Sep 2024 #18
Why didn't you post the link? littlemissmartypants Sep 2024 #19
Sorry, was having tech glitches! 'Ocelot II' did thankfully post the link. Jrose Sep 2024 #25
No need to apologize. Appreciate the post. Joinfortmill Sep 2024 #30
Oh, no. Technical glitches are no fun. I hope you can get them ironed out. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Sep 2024 #32
.... AKwannabe Sep 2024 #23
Finally. GB_RN Sep 2024 #26
Wow. Right on! Joinfortmill Sep 2024 #27
WE ARE NOT GOING BACK, PERIOD. Clouds Passing Sep 2024 #29
Finally, a freaking judge who "gets it!" slightlv Sep 2024 #31
There's a cartoon going around GopherGal Oct 2024 #49
The forced kidney donation example slightlv Oct 2024 #51
Wow, I'm so happy with this order and this judge! ...the robustness and strong defense against the abortion ban. liberalla Sep 2024 #36
At last! dlk Oct 2024 #39
Wow. Just wow. Native Oct 2024 #40
National Socialist Vance believes in the collectivization of white baby production. Production, not support Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2024 #41
Robert McBurney For the Supreme Court malaise Oct 2024 #45
This is beautiful ... n/t wackadoo wabbit Oct 2024 #46
Wow. Beautifully said. Betty Boom Oct 2024 #47
Not a Republican, I'm guessing. Morbius Oct 2024 #52
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