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Just a reminder: Most people with mental illness are NOT violent. [View all] cali Dec 2012 OP

Since mental illness has catagories... snooper2 Dec 2012 #1

I'm bipolar, and I think that shooters like this might be mentally ill but GreenPartyVoter Dec 2012 #5

Mass propaganda and brainwashing. Uncle Joe Dec 2012 #10

Yes, I think you are right. GreenPartyVoter Dec 2012 #11

Serial killers are usually sociopaths. white_wolf Dec 2012 #13

Yes, and I guess not all sociopaths and psychopaths become murderers either, based GreenPartyVoter Dec 2012 #15

No the majority don't. white_wolf Dec 2012 #16

Yes, I saw something about that on the show too, I think. What stuck with me most was the doctor who GreenPartyVoter Dec 2012 #17

Do you kill with a gun or do you kill with oil spills and chemical explosions? Kennah Dec 2012 #63

of course not. but psychopaths should be prohibited from owning guns. bettyellen Dec 2012 #86

I would not be surprised if we found that there are psychopaths GreenPartyVoter Dec 2012 #89

but this kid was a spree killer, not a serial killer. totally different phenomenon. bettyellen Dec 2012 #49

Very good point. Chemisse Dec 2012 #56

well spree killers are usually having a psychotic break that might have been prevented bettyellen Dec 2012 #60

So if we are to prevent some people from buying guns Chemisse Dec 2012 #69

I don't pretend to have answers, but right now anyone can buy anything if they cross a state line bettyellen Dec 2012 #71

In my state, people with serious mental health crises sit in ERs for days Chemisse Dec 2012 #82

my Mom was in a ER waiting room for over 36 hours after a car accident bettyellen Dec 2012 #85

That must have been a horrible ordeal. Chemisse Dec 2012 #87

when they released her, she was burning up with pneumonia.... bettyellen Dec 2012 #88

No, it wouldn't TygrBright Dec 2012 #28

Why does he have to be mentally ill to be evil? NRA_SUCKS Dec 2012 #42

Because it is inherently mentally unbalanced/ill to want to commit murders, mass or otherwise, 1monster Dec 2012 #51

I agree... it's simply it feels like we tend to dismiss anything from a "disturbed mind" NRA_SUCKS Dec 2012 #52

The simple answer is that that makes it easier for people to swallow. Posteritatis Dec 2012 #81

DURec leftstreet Dec 2012 #2

Kicking because many folks here are actively stigmatizing all mentally ill people slackmaster Dec 2012 #3

I don't think that is true. Live and Learn Dec 2012 #26

I see people trying to get people to understand the health care crises in regards to the mentally bettyellen Dec 2012 #50

Most of the mentally ill people I know are out rescuing abused animals from normal people Cetacea Dec 2012 #4

Mental illness varies greatly. Lone_Star_Dem Dec 2012 #6

Exactly. HappyMe Dec 2012 #7

CORRECT Skittles Dec 2012 #8

Most people are not violent, but mentally ill people are just more unpredictable than those without Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2012 #9

This is a very important thing to remember. FedUpWithIt All Dec 2012 #12

"A very small percentage" are violent. We need to protect them from violence. Look at the numbers: Cetacea Dec 2012 #32

People with some types of mental illness FedUpWithIt All Dec 2012 #39

Just a reminder: Most people that own guns are NOT violent. cleanhippie Dec 2012 #14

what a vapid little non-sequitur cali Dec 2012 #19

Uh, ok. cleanhippie Dec 2012 #24

+1 Go Vols Dec 2012 #22

THEY may pose no threat laundry_queen Dec 2012 #33

If that is what you need to tell yourself... cleanhippie Dec 2012 #54

They post a threat to everyone. laundry_queen Dec 2012 #61

Funny thing, statistics, show the opposite to be the case. cleanhippie Dec 2012 #73

There is a profound difference which you ignored. Uncle Joe Dec 2012 #37

Irrelevant. cleanhippie Dec 2012 #55

To the contrary it has everything to do with it. Uncle Joe Dec 2012 #58

+1000 nt laundry_queen Dec 2012 #62

Except that the vast number of people who own guns want something that is only meant to kill. originalpckelly Dec 2012 #68

Really? AlexSatan Dec 2012 #75

Violent Behavior and DSM-IV Psychiatric Disorders: Results from the National Epidemiologic Survey on FarCenter Dec 2012 #18

thank you for posting this nickinSTL Dec 2012 #20

There are two types of bi-polar disorder and has been broken down further into several groups FedUpWithIt All Dec 2012 #29

I don't doubt that nickinSTL Dec 2012 #31

It has been said that the shooter had a personality disorder pandr32 Dec 2012 #21

Yup. progressoid Dec 2012 #23

thanks for reminding all of us that, Cali Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2012 #25

This needs to be said over and over etherealtruth Dec 2012 #27

WHO was mentally ill? The mother OWNED the guns! janedum Dec 2012 #30

And who did she kill? nt Union Scribe Dec 2012 #46

Yes, and most gun owners don't commit crime UndahCovah Dec 2012 #34

Thanks you, cali. Scruffy Rumbler Dec 2012 #35

Amen laundry_queen Dec 2012 #36

During psychotic episodes, dinger130 Dec 2012 #38

I am sorry for your pain. FedUpWithIt All Dec 2012 #40

"REFORM MENTAL HEALTH IN THIS COUNTRY! REFORM THE GUN LAWS! " rainlillie Dec 2012 #66

It's said that the killer had Asperger's Syndrome. Rozlee Dec 2012 #41

thank you DonCoquixote Dec 2012 #57

And Einstein. Rozlee Dec 2012 #77

I read Asperger, Autism, and then "a form of Autism" Kennah Dec 2012 #64

It's considered an "autism spectrum disorder." Rozlee Dec 2012 #76

I'm not familiar with all the names you mentioned, Raksha Dec 2012 #70

ADD/ADHD is often mistakenly attributed to kids with Asperger's. Rozlee Dec 2012 #74

thank you! BainsBane Dec 2012 #43

no, we're not fizzgig Dec 2012 #44

Most people who are truly insane... Deep13 Dec 2012 #45

Good reminder. Thank you. nt Chorophyll Dec 2012 #47

My daughter (33) is bi-polar HockeyMom Dec 2012 #48

and? A good friend of mine is bi-polar. He's also a cali Dec 2012 #65

The word "never" doesn't appear in the OP. (nt) Posteritatis Dec 2012 #80

I haven't heard everything about the young man that perpetrated this horrible act..... ReRe Dec 2012 #53

But you don't know which ones ... oldhippie Dec 2012 #59

Of course they aren't Dorian Gray Dec 2012 #67

+10000. This creepy meme that's beginning to take hold that this shooting is about mental illness, riderinthestorm Dec 2012 #72

It's the same discussion that's popped up with every other mass shooting Posteritatis Dec 2012 #78

+1000 truebluegreen Dec 2012 #79

This article dropped like a stone yesterday, maybe better luck here? 5 myths on mass shootings riderinthestorm Dec 2012 #83

k&r excellent point nt steve2470 Dec 2012 #84