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25. some People Really do not understand the COncept of Separation of Church and State

Sun Jan 29, 2012, 12:26 PM

Jan 2012

Last edited Sun Jan 29, 2012, 01:16 PM - Edit history (1)

that or they purposely pretend not to, in order to subvert the constitution in order to promote religion through government. These people make me sick.

Here's a good link on the subject of separation of church and state, and how the religious right wing is trying to rewrite the intent behind it. Also, there is plenty already out there about how the founding fathers felt about this issue, regardless of whether they believed in a god or not.

http://www.theocracywatch.org/separation_church_state2.htm

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Pennsylvania House Unanimously Violates First Amendment Of Constitution [View all] Galraedia Jan 2012 OP

Dear Pa Reps... hootinholler Jan 2012 #1

Damn, it's a real story,too. krispos42 Jan 2012 #2

I am ashamed to be a citizen of PA today. Justice wanted Jan 2012 #3

I guess they didn't realize that the "founding fathers" were deists or borderline atheist.? nt nanabugg Jan 2012 #4

That is false. former9thward Jan 2012 #19

Thomas Paine? MNBrewer Jan 2012 #20

Paine represents all the founders? former9thward Jan 2012 #30

Was just pointing out that your statement was false. MNBrewer Jan 2012 #56

You can come up with one person so my statement was false? former9thward Jan 2012 #57

Absolutely MNBrewer Jan 2012 #62

But you have no problem with the post I was replying to? former9thward Jan 2012 #66

You said "All" and now you're asking if 90% is okay CreekDog Jan 2012 #79

I have posted a link for my information. former9thward Jan 2012 #88

Some form? MNBrewer Jan 2012 #86

I guess you will provide a link to the deistism of the founders. former9thward Jan 2012 #89

I'll be goddamned if I'll provide you with anything MNBrewer Jan 2012 #90

I knew you had nothing. former9thward Jan 2012 #95

Believe whatever you want. You're obviously capable of that. MNBrewer Jan 2012 #98

Facts are such stubborn pesky things! former9thward Jan 2012 #99

The post to which you replied incorrectly did not claim that ALL the founders were deists or atheist MNBrewer Jan 2012 #63

I read it. I did not parse it. former9thward Jan 2012 #65

Your "false" is false. cthulu2016 Jan 2012 #22

I understood the post I was replying to very well. former9thward Jan 2012 #32

not surprised to see you spin like this... fascisthunter Jan 2012 #23

I am sure you will link to where the founders were all atheists. former9thward Jan 2012 #28

I Didn't say they were... try harder in your Religious crusade fascisthunter Jan 2012 #31

The post I was replying to said they all were deists or atheists. former9thward Jan 2012 #33

yes I did, and would like to know why that bothers you so much? fascisthunter Jan 2012 #37

Your 'history' is flat out wrong. former9thward Jan 2012 #39

odds are you are a very religious person trying to defend this BS meme they were all religious fascisthunter Jan 2012 #41

I am not "very religious" --whatever that means -- but I have history on my side. former9thward Jan 2012 #44

do you agree with the Separation of Church and State? fascisthunter Jan 2012 #45

I'm sure you will post the "plenty of facts" I have "purposefully excluded". former9thward Jan 2012 #49

uhuh.... so you agree with this legislation or not? fascisthunter Jan 2012 #50

I don't agree with any legislation which 'honors' something or 'commemorates' something. former9thward Jan 2012 #60

umm . . no one said that annabanana Jan 2012 #51

The problem is with yours. former9thward Jan 2012 #58

Oh, dear. aquart Jan 2012 #24

"Educate" me. former9thward Jan 2012 #29

I often reference God and Christianity too. progressoid Jan 2012 #53

So are you saying the founders were all deists or atheists? former9thward Jan 2012 #61

I'm not parsing words. progressoid Jan 2012 #64

The discussion is about whether the founders as a whole were Christian or not. former9thward Jan 2012 #67

Are you refering to the word games you started when saying, progressoid Jan 2012 #69

Again you deflect from the subject matter. former9thward Jan 2012 #73

I was not deflecting from the subject matter. progressoid Jan 2012 #75

At least I agree with your last sentence. former9thward Jan 2012 #83

I refer you to this hobbit709 Jan 2012 #78

A cherry picked website at best. former9thward Jan 2012 #82

Your mind is made up so i won't confuse you. hobbit709 Jan 2012 #96

And you were unable to reply to any of my points. former9thward Jan 2012 #97

I gave you actual writing from the time hobbit709 Jan 2012 #103

doesn't the bible have something to say about poseurs and hypocrites and idolators? unblock Jan 2012 #5

What a bunch of fuckwads... mrmpa Jan 2012 #6

Only in the South Hugabear Jan 2012 #7

LOL! Fawke Em Jan 2012 #13

Those of us that border Penn MattBaggins Jan 2012 #17

Actually, that would be NJ. /nt October Jan 2012 #42

Nope I drive through Pennsylvania to get to NJ MattBaggins Jan 2012 #48

And I drive through NJ to get to NY, NE. :) October Feb 2012 #108

A LOOOOOONNNNGGGG drive! HopeHoops Jan 2012 #46

LOL, that statement remind me of my Ohio days nt NoGOPZone Jan 2012 #59

PA is Philly to the east, Pitt in the West, and Alabama in the middle ... always has been. JoePhilly Jan 2012 #54

Philadelphia in the east, Pittsburg in the west and Kentucky in the middle. DCKit Jan 2012 #8

The common term for where I live is Pennsyltucky. HopeHoops Jan 2012 #47

oops ... didn't see your post. Everyone from PA knows it's true. JoePhilly Jan 2012 #55

Yeppers. I've been using that one since I moved to DC in '89. nt DCKit Jan 2012 #100

While I don't support it quaker bill Jan 2012 #9

Which version of the bible is this COLGATE4 Jan 2012 #11

Fundies usually stick with the King James version because it is easier to twist the meaning. Old jwirr Jan 2012 #40

Yep. That was my point, although admittedly COLGATE4 Feb 2012 #107

The resolution is non-binding and says what it says quaker bill Jan 2012 #77

It is certainly a law "respecting an establishment of religion" is it not? MH1 Jan 2012 #12

I take back my post that it does not ignore the Constitution. Sorry. jwirr Jan 2012 #38

A non binding resolution is not a law. quaker bill Jan 2012 #76

It RECOMMENDS one. MNBrewer Jan 2012 #21

In a non-binding way without sanction of any sort quaker bill Jan 2012 #80

Then they're basically legislatively masturbating MNBrewer Jan 2012 #87

I agree quaker bill Jan 2012 #106

The most authoritative holy book is The Koran... why??? Loudmxr Jan 2012 #10

Oh dear. aquart Jan 2012 #26

There is no such thing as an authoritative holy book. Fuzz Jan 2012 #35

Wow. Unbelievable. But I guess if you view the Bible as a BOOK, you Honeycombe8 Jan 2012 #14

This is all because BumRushDaShow Jan 2012 #15

Much more on the PA. republican party's War on the Poor JPZenger Jan 2012 #81

Thanks for the link BumRushDaShow Jan 2012 #93

"The bible is a book with some beautiful poetry, a blood stained history, a wealth of obscenity and Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2012 #16

That's what comes of getting your bible from church. aquart Jan 2012 #27

The only other way to read it would be if we all knew Hebrew and Greek. I have known people who jwirr Jan 2012 #36

The book itself is just a mess -- a mishmash of mythology and odd stories. Arugula Latte Jan 2012 #68

And 2013 will be the Year of the Koran? n/t MountainLaurel Jan 2012 #18

some People Really do not understand the COncept of Separation of Church and State fascisthunter Jan 2012 #25

It is a foolish and petty move on their part and only serves to make Christianity less popular but jwirr Jan 2012 #34

A stupid waste of time, but what's the remedy? Nye Bevan Jan 2012 #43

There is none BumRushDaShow Jan 2012 #52

Well, it beats passing any constructive legislation. Buns_of_Fire Jan 2012 #70

Nah, they just needed to distract from the issue of Corbett's cronies extracting shale gas for free. MH1 Jan 2012 #72

It's official - we live in the Matrix. Initech Jan 2012 #71

Eh. A steenkin resolution. Big whoop. Sound and fury, signifying nothing. yellowcanine Jan 2012 #74

Oh Dear God unionworks Jan 2012 #84

What's wrong, progressive (D) Reps in Pennsylvania? No courage to dissent from religion? alp227 Jan 2012 #85

Can 2013 go to the Koran, 2014 to the Torah, etc., etc.,? NYC_SKP Jan 2012 #91

These things are worthless.... WCGreen Jan 2012 #92

If they truly want to honor the Bible, why would they "suffer a witch to live" (Exodus 22:18)? AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #94

This message was self-deleted by its author Obamanaut Jan 2012 #101

No it doesn't MFrohike Jan 2012 #102

Sign petition to repeal this illegal resolution PeacefulLizard Jan 2012 #104

This message was self-deleted by its author Obamanaut Jan 2012 #105