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former9thward

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57. You can come up with one person so my statement was false?

Sun Jan 29, 2012, 01:25 PM

Jan 2012

Isn't my statement much closer to the truth than a statement that says all the founders were deists or atheists? I guess that statement didn't bother you as much. BTW as far as Paine goes only 6 people showed up for his funeral because he was so despised at the time of his death.

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Pennsylvania House Unanimously Violates First Amendment Of Constitution [View all] Galraedia Jan 2012 OP

Dear Pa Reps... hootinholler Jan 2012 #1

Damn, it's a real story,too. krispos42 Jan 2012 #2

I am ashamed to be a citizen of PA today. Justice wanted Jan 2012 #3

I guess they didn't realize that the "founding fathers" were deists or borderline atheist.? nt nanabugg Jan 2012 #4

That is false. former9thward Jan 2012 #19

Thomas Paine? MNBrewer Jan 2012 #20

Paine represents all the founders? former9thward Jan 2012 #30

Was just pointing out that your statement was false. MNBrewer Jan 2012 #56

You can come up with one person so my statement was false? former9thward Jan 2012 #57

Absolutely MNBrewer Jan 2012 #62

But you have no problem with the post I was replying to? former9thward Jan 2012 #66

You said "All" and now you're asking if 90% is okay CreekDog Jan 2012 #79

I have posted a link for my information. former9thward Jan 2012 #88

Some form? MNBrewer Jan 2012 #86

I guess you will provide a link to the deistism of the founders. former9thward Jan 2012 #89

I'll be goddamned if I'll provide you with anything MNBrewer Jan 2012 #90

I knew you had nothing. former9thward Jan 2012 #95

Believe whatever you want. You're obviously capable of that. MNBrewer Jan 2012 #98

Facts are such stubborn pesky things! former9thward Jan 2012 #99

The post to which you replied incorrectly did not claim that ALL the founders were deists or atheist MNBrewer Jan 2012 #63

I read it. I did not parse it. former9thward Jan 2012 #65

Your "false" is false. cthulu2016 Jan 2012 #22

I understood the post I was replying to very well. former9thward Jan 2012 #32

not surprised to see you spin like this... fascisthunter Jan 2012 #23

I am sure you will link to where the founders were all atheists. former9thward Jan 2012 #28

I Didn't say they were... try harder in your Religious crusade fascisthunter Jan 2012 #31

The post I was replying to said they all were deists or atheists. former9thward Jan 2012 #33

yes I did, and would like to know why that bothers you so much? fascisthunter Jan 2012 #37

Your 'history' is flat out wrong. former9thward Jan 2012 #39

odds are you are a very religious person trying to defend this BS meme they were all religious fascisthunter Jan 2012 #41

I am not "very religious" --whatever that means -- but I have history on my side. former9thward Jan 2012 #44

do you agree with the Separation of Church and State? fascisthunter Jan 2012 #45

I'm sure you will post the "plenty of facts" I have "purposefully excluded". former9thward Jan 2012 #49

uhuh.... so you agree with this legislation or not? fascisthunter Jan 2012 #50

I don't agree with any legislation which 'honors' something or 'commemorates' something. former9thward Jan 2012 #60

umm . . no one said that annabanana Jan 2012 #51

The problem is with yours. former9thward Jan 2012 #58

Oh, dear. aquart Jan 2012 #24

"Educate" me. former9thward Jan 2012 #29

I often reference God and Christianity too. progressoid Jan 2012 #53

So are you saying the founders were all deists or atheists? former9thward Jan 2012 #61

I'm not parsing words. progressoid Jan 2012 #64

The discussion is about whether the founders as a whole were Christian or not. former9thward Jan 2012 #67

Are you refering to the word games you started when saying, progressoid Jan 2012 #69

Again you deflect from the subject matter. former9thward Jan 2012 #73

I was not deflecting from the subject matter. progressoid Jan 2012 #75

At least I agree with your last sentence. former9thward Jan 2012 #83

I refer you to this hobbit709 Jan 2012 #78

A cherry picked website at best. former9thward Jan 2012 #82

Your mind is made up so i won't confuse you. hobbit709 Jan 2012 #96

And you were unable to reply to any of my points. former9thward Jan 2012 #97

I gave you actual writing from the time hobbit709 Jan 2012 #103

doesn't the bible have something to say about poseurs and hypocrites and idolators? unblock Jan 2012 #5

What a bunch of fuckwads... mrmpa Jan 2012 #6

Only in the South Hugabear Jan 2012 #7

LOL! Fawke Em Jan 2012 #13

Those of us that border Penn MattBaggins Jan 2012 #17

Actually, that would be NJ. /nt October Jan 2012 #42

Nope I drive through Pennsylvania to get to NJ MattBaggins Jan 2012 #48

And I drive through NJ to get to NY, NE. :) October Feb 2012 #108

A LOOOOOONNNNGGGG drive! HopeHoops Jan 2012 #46

LOL, that statement remind me of my Ohio days nt NoGOPZone Jan 2012 #59

PA is Philly to the east, Pitt in the West, and Alabama in the middle ... always has been. JoePhilly Jan 2012 #54

Philadelphia in the east, Pittsburg in the west and Kentucky in the middle. DCKit Jan 2012 #8

The common term for where I live is Pennsyltucky. HopeHoops Jan 2012 #47

oops ... didn't see your post. Everyone from PA knows it's true. JoePhilly Jan 2012 #55

Yeppers. I've been using that one since I moved to DC in '89. nt DCKit Jan 2012 #100

While I don't support it quaker bill Jan 2012 #9

Which version of the bible is this COLGATE4 Jan 2012 #11

Fundies usually stick with the King James version because it is easier to twist the meaning. Old jwirr Jan 2012 #40

Yep. That was my point, although admittedly COLGATE4 Feb 2012 #107

The resolution is non-binding and says what it says quaker bill Jan 2012 #77

It is certainly a law "respecting an establishment of religion" is it not? MH1 Jan 2012 #12

I take back my post that it does not ignore the Constitution. Sorry. jwirr Jan 2012 #38

A non binding resolution is not a law. quaker bill Jan 2012 #76

It RECOMMENDS one. MNBrewer Jan 2012 #21

In a non-binding way without sanction of any sort quaker bill Jan 2012 #80

Then they're basically legislatively masturbating MNBrewer Jan 2012 #87

I agree quaker bill Jan 2012 #106

The most authoritative holy book is The Koran... why??? Loudmxr Jan 2012 #10

Oh dear. aquart Jan 2012 #26

There is no such thing as an authoritative holy book. Fuzz Jan 2012 #35

Wow. Unbelievable. But I guess if you view the Bible as a BOOK, you Honeycombe8 Jan 2012 #14

This is all because BumRushDaShow Jan 2012 #15

Much more on the PA. republican party's War on the Poor JPZenger Jan 2012 #81

Thanks for the link BumRushDaShow Jan 2012 #93

"The bible is a book with some beautiful poetry, a blood stained history, a wealth of obscenity and Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2012 #16

That's what comes of getting your bible from church. aquart Jan 2012 #27

The only other way to read it would be if we all knew Hebrew and Greek. I have known people who jwirr Jan 2012 #36

The book itself is just a mess -- a mishmash of mythology and odd stories. Arugula Latte Jan 2012 #68

And 2013 will be the Year of the Koran? n/t MountainLaurel Jan 2012 #18

some People Really do not understand the COncept of Separation of Church and State fascisthunter Jan 2012 #25

It is a foolish and petty move on their part and only serves to make Christianity less popular but jwirr Jan 2012 #34

A stupid waste of time, but what's the remedy? Nye Bevan Jan 2012 #43

There is none BumRushDaShow Jan 2012 #52

Well, it beats passing any constructive legislation. Buns_of_Fire Jan 2012 #70

Nah, they just needed to distract from the issue of Corbett's cronies extracting shale gas for free. MH1 Jan 2012 #72

It's official - we live in the Matrix. Initech Jan 2012 #71

Eh. A steenkin resolution. Big whoop. Sound and fury, signifying nothing. yellowcanine Jan 2012 #74

Oh Dear God unionworks Jan 2012 #84

What's wrong, progressive (D) Reps in Pennsylvania? No courage to dissent from religion? alp227 Jan 2012 #85

Can 2013 go to the Koran, 2014 to the Torah, etc., etc.,? NYC_SKP Jan 2012 #91

These things are worthless.... WCGreen Jan 2012 #92

If they truly want to honor the Bible, why would they "suffer a witch to live" (Exodus 22:18)? AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #94

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No it doesn't MFrohike Jan 2012 #102

Sign petition to repeal this illegal resolution PeacefulLizard Jan 2012 #104

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