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LostOne4Ever

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35. So the first Poll decides them all?

Sun May 26, 2013, 09:23 AM

May 2013

The race had barely just started and if you had believed the hype just a few months before Dean should have been in the single digits. The media had pretty much declared Kerry the winner before even a single vote had been cast. Then Dean came in with his fund raising and all of the sudden they changed their tune.

Iowa is only the first contest but after the scream (that was played over 663 times in the four days following the contest) they had convinced America he was a mad man. That video was all over the place with commentators more or less saying he had lost it. His campaign imploded after that.

I believe that had they not used that one video Dean could have made a comeback. I still don't see what was so bad about that video? Someone being passionate about their country?

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I disagree. Kerry was boring and uninspiring . He lost the popular vote by over 2 million. No I don't mean that dean would have picked up votes on the "left" I mean he would have picked up votes from the middle from being more Charismatic. Kerry was a good debater, but he couldn't inspire a turnip. If debates and facts could win this country over the 2000 election would have went for Gore overwhelmingly. The left wanted bush GONE. They would have gone for any of that years nominees. The middle, the undecideds? They were more interested in who would be more fun to have a beer with than with who was best to run the country.

That is what i meant and what I believe. Feel free to disagree but I don't see the point in debating politics that are 9years old and to which we can change nothing.

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Who did you support and VOTE for President in 1992? Primary/General [View all] graham4anything May 2013 OP

I voted for Clinton BainsBane May 2013 #1

I'm think that I voted for Tsongas, TexasTowelie May 2013 #2

One of his central themes was reinvesting and resparking our manufacturing/industrial salin May 2013 #85

By the time it got to Alabama, it was already decided. House of Roberts May 2013 #3

Clinton/Clinton. Warren DeMontague May 2013 #4

I was too young to vote Spider Jerusalem May 2013 #5

I second that. krispos42 May 2013 #134

didn't Ross Perot run in 92? nt boilerbabe May 2013 #6

Yes. He did. n/t Laelth May 2013 #25

so did lots of other people hfojvt May 2013 #73

I couldn't vote, being only 5 years old. sakabatou May 2013 #7

Tsongas/Clinton n/t dorkzilla May 2013 #8

Don't recall if I voted in the primary union_maid May 2013 #9

Initially Supported Perot JustAnotherGen May 2013 #10

Initially supported Harkin deutsey May 2013 #11

I canvassed for Jerry Brown rucky May 2013 #12

Jerry Brown and here's his speech Ichingcarpenter May 2013 #13

I held a sign for Jerry Brown when Hillary came to our campus to campaign. tridim May 2013 #29

Perot. tsuki May 2013 #14

Brown in the primary. Clinton in the general. George Gently May 2013 #15

Too young LostOne4Ever May 2013 #16

The MSM did NOT kill Dean's campaign karynnj May 2013 #21

They assassinated him by running that one screamin maniac scene, over & over again. Like 444 Days, leveymg May 2013 #26

Explain what the story that night would have been without the scream karynnj May 2013 #98

Remember that Dean had talked about how he would break up media monopolies. MSM fought back! SharonAnn May 2013 #103

True, but Kerry wrote legislation that would decrease media consolidation karynnj May 2013 #115

Yes. When he screamed he had already lost big (nt) Nye Bevan May 2013 #28

The scream was nothing in itself. But repeated for 444 days . . . just ask Jimmy Carter about the leveymg May 2013 #40

My interpretation of "the scream"... MarianJack May 2013 #70

So the first Poll decides them all? LostOne4Ever May 2013 #35

No one in the media thought Kerry had a chance before Iowa karynnj May 2013 #96

What are you talking about LostOne4Ever May 2013 #119

There are so many errors here - I will list just some of them karynnj May 2013 #132

Kerry's vote for the war is what did him in dsc May 2013 #51

That might have been why he could not have won in 2008, but it was not true in 2004 karynnj May 2013 #93

my point is he couldn't go around trashing a war he voted for dsc May 2013 #99

That would have led to a HUGE Bush landslide karynnj May 2013 #118

Don't recall voting in the primary/Clinton General Election MNBrewer May 2013 #17

as I remember it, the primary was over hfojvt May 2013 #69

Harkin Skidmore May 2013 #18

That was one of the years I didn't vote in the primary but voted for Clinton in the general. hobbit709 May 2013 #19

Clinton/Clinton RB TexLa May 2013 #20

The big dog of course madokie May 2013 #22

Sad to admit but I voted for Bush. MrSlayer May 2013 #23

Voted for Tom Harkin in the primary. Laelth May 2013 #24

Harkin/Clinton handmade34 May 2013 #27

Clinton, don't think I voted in the primary...as I can't remember. n/t Sekhmets Daughter May 2013 #30

Supported Jerry Brown initially Kath1 May 2013 #31

This was the first one I was old enough to vote in... onpatrol98 May 2013 #32

Jesse Jackson/Clinton emulatorloo May 2013 #33

Clinton in both primary and general. MineralMan May 2013 #34

Bill Clinton Freddie May 2013 #36

I voted for Paul Tsongas in the primary and for President Clinton in the general Glorfindel May 2013 #37

Same here! n/t etherealtruth May 2013 #126

Bill Clinton Flashmann May 2013 #38

I actually held a position in Tsongas' campaign HQ MannyGoldstein May 2013 #39

what an idea: reinvest in our industrial infrastructure... salin May 2013 #86

Voted for Clinton, should have voted for Perot.. pipoman May 2013 #41

I was too young to vote but I remember my mother supporting Clinton. hrmjustin May 2013 #42

Supported Harkin early on, but by the time I voted Clinton had nearly sealed it JHB May 2013 #43

Clinton/Clinton life long demo May 2013 #44

I supported nobody and I voted for Clinton. Iggo May 2013 #45

Harkin. n/t lumberjack_jeff May 2013 #46

I didn't vote in the primary that year. Voted for Clinton in the general election. Marr May 2013 #47

Clinton ananda May 2013 #48

Jerry Brown - Hell Hath No Fury May 2013 #49

Tsongas then Clinton with considerable damage to my nose. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2013 #50

Supported Harkin in the primary. Pab Sungenis May 2013 #52

couldn't vote yet (nt) bigwillq May 2013 #53

Harkin/Clinton Bluzmann57 May 2013 #54

Ross Perot - I think he had it right on jobs being sucked out of RKP5637 May 2013 #55

Ross Perot. For the same reason you did. And he was right, wasn't he? nt Honeycombe8 May 2013 #58

Ross Perot. And he was right about more than just that "giant sucking sound". n/t cherokeeprogressive May 2013 #62

As a recent I.T. grad at the time, Ross Perot was the man. -nt Bonx May 2013 #97

Clinton - my first time voting. liberalmuse May 2013 #56

Cinton...when the others flamed out in the primaries....... Historic NY May 2013 #57

No primary here, but I caucused for Tsongas. lastlib May 2013 #59

I didn't participate in the primaries Spirochete May 2013 #60

clinton Liberal_in_LA May 2013 #61

That was the first election I was 18+ for. ZombieHorde May 2013 #63

Voted for Tom Harkin in the primary Life Long Dem May 2013 #64

Jackson then Clinton olddots May 2013 #65

Nobody!! Chan790 May 2013 #66

Bill Clinton all the way,... MarianJack May 2013 #67

Jerry Brown in the primary/Clinton in the general LuvNewcastle May 2013 #68

I was at University and had a religious studies class. The TA kept going on how the repugs owned.. Tikki May 2013 #71

Clinton. calimary May 2013 #72

If I could have voted... Agschmid May 2013 #74

i was 11 fizzgig May 2013 #75

I didn't vote in primary. In election of course I voted for Clinton. MotherPetrie May 2013 #76

Ron Daniels Doc_Technical May 2013 #77

Tsongas in the Kansas caucus; Clinton in the general... KansDem May 2013 #78

Missouri was still the largest state without a primary........... TheDebbieDee May 2013 #79

I was five. I supported Clinton because even then I knew republicans hate the environment. RedCappedBandit May 2013 #80

Clinton for both sarisataka May 2013 #81

Clinton/Clinton Auntie Bush May 2013 #82

Tsongas/Clinton salin May 2013 #83

Bill Clinton Greybnk48 May 2013 #84

Tsongas/Clinton n/t gollygee May 2013 #87

Bill Clinton rrneck May 2013 #88

I have to admit Politicalboi May 2013 #89

Clinton and Clinton LadyHawkAZ May 2013 #90

nobody/Clinton LWolf May 2013 #91

I decided early that I was going to support the guy that hired the The Second Stone May 2013 #92

I'm pretty sure Senator Paul Simon from ILL was who I supported. In the GE Clinton. nt Raine May 2013 #94

I preferred Al Franken portraying Simon over the real Simon. Buzz Clik May 2013 #110

I voted for Clinton. The NC primary is in May, so we don't play a big role in nominating struggle4progress May 2013 #95

Tsongas/Clinton REP May 2013 #100

Paul Tsongas elleng May 2013 #101

I was 10 at the time so none. Apophis May 2013 #102

Voted for Bill Clinton, I became a fan when he ran for Governor of Arkansas in 1980. Thinkingabout May 2013 #104

Bill Clinton. Because we had no... madinmaryland May 2013 #105

I was only 16 in 1992 but I voted for Clinton in 1996 Jennicut May 2013 #106

Clinton Buzz Clik May 2013 #107

jackson, clinton dembotoz May 2013 #108

Clinton mokawanis May 2013 #109

Tsongas in the Colorado primary. kaiden May 2013 #111

Tsongas in primary, Clinton in general northoftheborder May 2013 #112

I was 14 and just started homeschool. Lady Freedom Returns May 2013 #113

Bush FreeState May 2013 #114

In '92 I wanted Cuomo and I wasn't thrilled with the final primary candidates. Arugula Latte May 2013 #116

Tsongas/Clinton MiniMe May 2013 #117

Clinton/Clinton. n/t Still Sensible May 2013 #120

I can't remember whether I voted for Tsongas or Clinton LeftInTX May 2013 #121

Ralph Nader! Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #122

None Of The Above, write in. nt Snotcicles May 2013 #138

Brown/Perot former9thward May 2013 #123

Clinton redstatebluegirl May 2013 #124

i REALLY wanted Cuomo after that speech... but I went with Clinton. stlsaxman May 2013 #125

I voted for Bush. I was young and believed in the false promise of supply-side economics. TekGryphon May 2013 #127

I wasn't here Rosa Luxemburg May 2013 #128

Through the fog of 20+ years I recall liking Tsongas, but who my vote in the primary petronius May 2013 #129

Well Robbins May 2013 #130

Jerry Brown then the nominee Bill Clinton Bluenorthwest May 2013 #131

I supported Clinton and was confident enough in his victory that I made a symbolic vote for Perot NBachers May 2013 #133

My First Presidential Election ChoppinBroccoli May 2013 #135

By the time it got to the Commonwealth, all there was to do was to rubber stamp Bubba TheKentuckian May 2013 #136

Jerry Brown in the primary B Calm May 2013 #137

I was 12 then tabbycat31 May 2013 #139

Brown ~ Clinton nt Zorra May 2013 #140

just realized never gave my answer.Voted for Jerry Brown/Jesse Jackson in primary & Bill in general graham4anything May 2013 #141

Bill/Bill FreeJoe May 2013 #142