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51. A female acquaintence of mine recently headed off to a different state to do this to a man.
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 12:39 PM
Jun 2013

Jill - Girl moving to a different state, hardly know her
Pam - Ex-girlfriend of mine, still really good friends and we still live together. Friend of Jill's

This happened like 3-5 weeks ago, maybe a little longer. I hardly know Jill but Pam had been telling me that Jill had been working out a lot, dieting and doing a bunch of crunches and butt exercises so she had a super-toned ass. Pam, another female friend, my baby mama and I are all working out right now and trying to get sexy for the summer so Jill's ass and her exercises crept into conversation quite a bit. Anyway, Pam says I can check out Jill's ass and find out what she's doing exercise-wise if I help her get some of Jill's stuff moved.

I have an excellent ass and I just have to see this mythic ass of Jill's in person.

So Pam and I are driving an old beater truck she has on the way to Jill's house and we're talking about butt crunches and shit like that when I realize we're doing this a week early and I ask Pam why the date got moved up. Pam gets really quiet and I can tell she's getting pissed off but I have no fucking idea why.

She then cryptically says something like "All of us disagree with why Jill's moving to (different state). She's doing it for a man."

Okay, whatevs. I ask all the usual questions and it turns out the man is someone Jill dated briefly in high school and hadn't seen for like 15 years, only to dial him up on the internet and start a long-distance relationship with him...intentionally...and for whatever reason. So she's moving down there to continue dating him. Odd, because she's got two little kids and her leaving early means she's even having to pull one of them out of school before the year finishes. So she's moving down there in a hurry to be closer to a man she's just started dating.

Like I said, whatevs.

So we get there and the moving we're required to do is actually really tough. Involves moving a giant couch and a full futon down a thin windy staircase. It was murder and so I forget all about checking out Jill's ass and focus on not winding up dead under a couch. The whole time Jill's drinking beer and her two little beautiful kids are running around nekkid looking all new and being completely unaware of how valuable their blemishless existences are or the kinds of life experiences which make mamas start drinking beers at 11am.

Jill, slightly buzzed, segues into an unconvincing excuse about why she has to move down there a week early then moves onto something else in conversation. The reason why I say unconvincing is because the explanation was so convoluted it was clearly a lie (or something like it) being made up by a semi-drunk person.

Back in the loaded truck driving away, I ask Pam what Jill was going on about and I see her hands tighten up on the steering wheel again. She then lets me know that Jill made it known that she's moving down there so she can fuck what's-his-name and get preggers. The exercise, the ass-crunches for the last month or two- the whole purpose of that is so he'll want to tap it so she can get a third baby and, hopefully, a daddy who can support her and her kids like the first two babydaddies can't. The dude has no idea whatsoever.

Ouch.

I actually called bullshit on her because I know she doesn't know Jill that well, either. Then she goes into an explanation about how Jill's closest friends (who she knows really, really well) have been relaying this information to her, including a number of anecdotes she relays which make it unambiguous that Jill is heading down there just so she can trap her sorry ass another man, hopefully a good one this time, with a baby. The anecdotes not only make it 100% clear what's going on but that Jill also might be...a little crazy.

One heartening thing to come out of this is that this sort of man-trapping technique is apparently as reviled among women (at least the ones I hang with) as it is among men. Pam basically said any time a single woman does this it gives all women a shitty name- and she's right. Jill's best friend in town apparently told her point blank that if she did this and had a third baby by a different daddy and especially under these sort of circumstances that, you know, some people would consider that kind of trashy.

Jill's response, allegedly while staring off in the distance dreamily? "Maybe I'm a little trashy like that."

Now I have no idea who all of you are out in DU-land or where you grew up or what life-experiences you have had. But where I come from, and where I've been, that quote above is like the creepiest, scariest motherfucking ending to a horror story for men, possible.

Now, this is not the first time I've heard of this happening. Not by a long shot. But outside of a conversation I heard on the bus a month or two before that, it had been probably 5 years before I'd heard of a situation like that in person.

PB

Get rid of the partners leftynyc Jun 2013 #1
that is too creepy! Whisp Jun 2013 #3
A baby isn't always the desired outcome for either REP Jun 2013 #25
True but let's make sure we have in place funded groups that can help them MattBaggins Jun 2013 #4
Absolutely leftynyc Jun 2013 #6
It may be possible to charge them legally MattBaggins Jun 2013 #9
So many states run by the pubs leftynyc Jun 2013 #16
even though this article was about the situation in india, we know that it happens here, as well niyad Jun 2013 #91
+1,000,000 nt clarice Jun 2013 #54
That's revolting. sibelian Jun 2013 #2
i had a woman do this to me she "forgot" to take b.c. pill for 2 months leftyohiolib Jun 2013 #5
Happened to a friend of mine leftynyc Jun 2013 #8
we made plans to marry - j.o.p. marriage. i was going to college at the time and was going to put leftyohiolib Jun 2013 #44
Sounds like you almost married leftynyc Jun 2013 #47
thanks i cried for days over that baby (s)he'd be about 25 now - the baby was just past the 1st leftyohiolib Jun 2013 #50
She had a miscarriage, you mean? REP Jun 2013 #61
yea one day she went to the bathroom came back and told me she thought the baby died i asked leftyohiolib Jun 2013 #63
Okay. I'm calling bullshit. REP Jun 2013 #72
it wa 25 years ago and maybe im wrong about the length but it was a fucking shock to both of us leftyohiolib Jun 2013 #74
I'm not the one changing my story around REP Jun 2013 #75
i didnt know she stopped taking them i did know she was using them but she didnt tell me she stopped leftyohiolib Jun 2013 #80
I can see how that's exactly the same... cynatnite Jun 2013 #10
- i never claimed they were the same leftyohiolib Jun 2013 #29
It's a form of rape, IMO... cynatnite Jun 2013 #32
she went off the pill without telling me and I invaded HER body?? leftyohiolib Jun 2013 #37
Oh, we were talking about you... cynatnite Jun 2013 #46
no WE werent i made a post and stuck your nose in it leftyohiolib Jun 2013 #48
This is a public forum...get used to people doing that. n/t cynatnite Jun 2013 #49
you should do the same leftyohiolib Jun 2013 #52
Um...I was making fun of you. n/t cynatnite Jun 2013 #53
did you marry her? the difference is, you could walk away at any time. not quite the same niyad Jun 2013 #11
Walk away and you're still on the hook. nt Bonobo Jun 2013 #15
rigggght. and how many men are actually paying child support? in how many cases is it even niyad Jun 2013 #17
child support is the law arely staircase Jun 2013 #19
Still on the hook. Bonobo Jun 2013 #20
how mary that are acutally payiong is not the point but nice try leftyohiolib Jun 2013 #36
Are you for real? In Oregon, where I live, there are extensive penalties for nonpayment. nt Poll_Blind Jun 2013 #59
Right, because every single man ducks out on child support ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2013 #82
no i didnt she met someone with whom she shared a bitrhday and left me for him leftyohiolib Jun 2013 #31
no i couldnt walk away anytime - how dare you assume, without knowing me, that i would walk away leftyohiolib Jun 2013 #45
I did not assume you would, I only said you could. a slight difference there. niyad Jun 2013 #92
Did you forget to put on a condom? Marrah_G Jun 2013 #22
You must be joking. Mariana Jun 2013 #28
Exactly. redqueen Jun 2013 #39
she didnt want me using them she didnt like them leftyohiolib Jun 2013 #33
~facepalm~ Marrah_G Jun 2013 #34
well if she tells me not to wear them i wont - i didnt care that she got pregnant i was more than leftyohiolib Jun 2013 #40
This has been going on for along time ThomThom Jun 2013 #70
I would have gotten the fuck out of there ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2013 #84
we were dating for about about 1.5 years (have sex all that time ) and she WAS on the pill bcause leftyohiolib Jun 2013 #86
You did it to yourself TorchTheWitch Jun 2013 #98
here you go blaming the victim leftyohiolib Jun 2013 #106
When women do it, it is called "choosing to start a family" and Bonobo Jun 2013 #7
men have a choice, too, and you know it. they can walk, any time, as so many do. niyad Jun 2013 #12
"Ooops I forgot my pill" Bonobo Jun 2013 #14
please, men do it all the time and you know it. but keep up the "poor, victimized men" meme. niyad Jun 2013 #18
He can walk away from the relationship after the first "I forgot" REP Jun 2013 #21
Who would do such a thing? Bonobo Jun 2013 #24
It can be an accident. REP Jun 2013 #26
she didnt forget 1 or 2 days she stopped taking them without telling me leftyohiolib Jun 2013 #41
Men can be responsible for birth control if they are worried about becoming fathers REP Jun 2013 #62
yes just as women and i was fine with becoming a father. she didnt like condoms and didnt want leftyohiolib Jun 2013 #65
But you just said you were fine with becoming a father ... so I don't see how you were tricked REP Jun 2013 #71
well i didnt say i was tricked (although i was ) and when she told me i was ok with being a father leftyohiolib Jun 2013 #77
I can certainly understand the visceral and petulant desire to blame everyone other than oneself... LanternWaste Jun 2013 #64
One can also think they are engaging in an honest relationship ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2013 #83
If a man knows he doesn't want to start a family... MadrasT Jun 2013 #81
of course, if a man is serious about never having children, there are vasectomies. condoms are niyad Jun 2013 #93
This should be an assault charge. Starry Messenger Jun 2013 #13
I used to know an ass who did this to his wife TWICE. Xithras Jun 2013 #23
I have been married 25 plus years exboyfil Jun 2013 #104
I knew a woman whose husband forcibly impregnated her to keep her dependent. Shrike47 Jun 2013 #27
delicious popcorn thread !! nt galileoreloaded Jun 2013 #30
This is a serious issue. More and more states are reducing access to abortion. redqueen Jun 2013 #38
serious issue? where, exactly? galileoreloaded Jun 2013 #42
Keep digging. redqueen Jun 2013 #43
hahahahahahaha what a stellar organization of rich one percenters!!! (technically i am one too so i galileoreloaded Jun 2013 #57
Pick up a newspaper BainsBane Jun 2013 #94
so because this was a report about india, we are not supposed to care? seriously, indian women niyad Jun 2013 #96
keep quiet BainsBane Jun 2013 #97
I know, how silly of me not to bow to his demonstrated superior wisdom. niyad Jun 2013 #99
We certainly advertise our character in what we choose to trivialize. LanternWaste Jun 2013 #66
Totally agree galileoreloaded Jun 2013 #68
It's a form of rape... cynatnite Jun 2013 #35
A female acquaintence of mine recently headed off to a different state to do this to a man. Poll_Blind Jun 2013 #51
Jill sounds kind of crazy. NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #88
Crimes involve motive and opportunity. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2013 #55
Okay, so you don't think women aren't forced to be pregnant against their will... cynatnite Jun 2013 #58
Too many negatives, can't parse. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2013 #67
this isnt research...... galileoreloaded Jun 2013 #85
you forgot VASECTOMY. niyad Jun 2013 #100
I didn't forget vasectomy nor did I forget tubal ligation. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2013 #101
no, it isn't. but you just keep trying. niyad Jun 2013 #102
Perhaps you have a point. Maybe the women in the OP should have tubal ligation to prevent coercion. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2013 #103
I wonder if anyone is surprised by the posts about "crazy" or "trashy" women as responses to this OP redqueen Jun 2013 #56
Somehow it always gets back around to the poor poor men, doesn't it? Sheldon Cooper Jun 2013 #60
Yes, somehow. nt redqueen Jun 2013 #69
And all that abuse they take from the women who want to ensnare them. Squinch Jun 2013 #79
and it took about 30 seconds longer than I figured it would. niyad Jun 2013 #89
and the absolute lack of concern for the women's forced pregnancy is appalling. it's all about niyad Jun 2013 #95
Those men should be forcibly sterilized. aquart Jun 2013 #73
I would walk out on him! In_The_Wind Jun 2013 #76
I have had men admit this twice at work. Butterbean Jun 2013 #78
Seriously? Why? NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #87
it is all about control--keeping the woman dependent, making sure she can't leave, a whole niyad Jun 2013 #90
The media has to call this what it is: RAPE. alp227 Jun 2013 #105
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