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alcibiades_mystery

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9. He's correct to foresee the end of privacy as we've known it
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 08:28 AM
Jun 2013

He would be more correct if he also historicized its origins. The problem with noting the end of privacy is usually wrapped up in not acknowledging its beginnings. The modern right to privacy is not some universal human feature that has been with us since Hammurabi, but a notion of recent vintage, tied to all kinds of culturally and historically contingent factors, including, of course, technological factors. Anyone who has been paying attention to any of this for the last 20 years knows that data tracking and storage technologies have steadily eroded a concept of privacy, and a practice of information gathering. Of course privacy will be different in 40 or 100 years. That should go without saying.

For awesome primers on some of these questions, I'd suggest

Elizabeth Neill's Rites of Privacy and the Privacy Trade: On the Limits of Protection for the Self (McGill, 2001)

and

Julie Cohen's excellent Configuring the Network Self: Law, Code, and the Play of Everyday Practice (Yale, 2012), available via Creative Commons license here: http://www.juliecohen.com/page5.php

Privacy has been on life support the last few decades Kelvin Mace Jun 2013 #1
du rec. xchrom Jun 2013 #2
Welcome to 2003, Mr. Robinson. reformist2 Jun 2013 #3
Governments and other authorities (police, etc..) should have to Solly Mack Jun 2013 #4
They do jump through hoops. That's why there is a legal warrant for the metadata collection. randome Jun 2013 #5
Yes, I feel ever so much better knowing members of Congress who rubber stamped Bush's Solly Mack Jun 2013 #6
I agree the Patriot Act is abominable. randome Jun 2013 #7
It's a continuation of it all that is the outrage. Solly Mack Jun 2013 #8
Foolish me, I can remember when a search warrant had to be specific. n/t A Simple Game Jun 2013 #18
A court order can be much more broad in scope. MineralMan Jun 2013 #35
He's correct to foresee the end of privacy as we've known it alcibiades_mystery Jun 2013 #9
+1 n/t whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #32
It's surprising to me... kentuck Jun 2013 #10
+1 nt Javaman Jun 2013 #11
Exactly. Solly Mack Jun 2013 #12
It is an interesting question n2doc Jun 2013 #13
DURec Gus Lammas Jun 2013 #14
Russ mtasselin Jun 2013 #15
Some of us listened ... and complained ... but we were ignored. Myrina Jun 2013 #16
Russ should have run in 2008. Daniel537 Jun 2013 #20
True. 2004, 2008 ... whenever ... Myrina Jun 2013 #21
Privacy is really a quaint notion. Exultant Democracy Jun 2013 #17
Most likely EVERYONE will hold the power. randome Jun 2013 #23
It might just be our only hope. Exultant Democracy Jun 2013 #25
Governments response: Go after the leaker CanonRay Jun 2013 #19
Been reading this man for decades and he is always on the button. jwirr Jun 2013 #22
Mr. Robinson is great Skittles Jun 2013 #26
If I am not mistaken I first read his OP in the early 50s in our local newspaper. Been reading him jwirr Jun 2013 #27
50s? He was born in 1955 Skittles Jun 2013 #28
No typo - I am wrong. Sorry. I wonder who I was reading? He was black and a great liberal. Maybe I jwirr Jun 2013 #29
by any chance was it William Raspberry? Skittles Jun 2013 #30
That sounds very familiar. You may be right. Thanks. I do not like thinking I am forgetting to many jwirr Jun 2013 #31
oh do I hear you there!!! Skittles Jun 2013 #33
I suspect we are expecting too much of ourselves. The name of who I read in the newspaper when I jwirr Jun 2013 #34
I always wonder how people can put their entire lives on Facebook... Initech Jun 2013 #24
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