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In reply to the discussion: Chief of Staff of the Australian Army is not kidding around when it comes to sexual harassment [View all]freshwest
(53,661 posts)9. He gets 'serious props,' while Obama says same but it's called 'unlawful' per OP last night:
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Judge: Obama sex assault comments unlawful command influence.Two defendants in military sexual assault cases cannot be punitively discharged, if found guilty, because of unlawful command influence derived from comments made by President Barack Obama, a judge ruled in a Hawaii military court this week.
Navy Judge Cmdr. Marcus Fulton ruled during pretrial hearings in two sexual assault cases U.S. vs. Johnson and U.S. vs. Fuentes that comments made by Obama as commander in chief would unduly influence any potential sentencing, according to a court documents obtained by Stars and Stripes
On Wednesday and Thursday, Fulton approved the pretrial defense motions, which used as evidence comments that Obama made about sexual assault at a May 7 news conference:
The bottom line is: I have no tolerance for this, Obama said, according to an NBC News story submitted as evidence by defense attorneys in the sexual assault cases.
I expect consequences, Obama added. So I dont just want more speeches or awareness programs or training, but ultimately folks look the other way. If we find out somebodys engaging in this, theyve got to be held accountable prosecuted, stripped of their positions, court martialed, fired, dishonorably discharged. Period.
Continued in article:
http://www.stripes.com/judge-obama-sex-assault-comments-unlawful-command-influence-1.225974
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3021078
I posted on that thread. Obama and the Australian man reflect my views. The perception is being created that Americans have no one leading on this, despite Obama being on the case. I posted what Obama said in May, but no one wanted to hear it. The full story below from then is below, but this new one where they use Obama stating his policy to deny enacting it is disgusting.
We need to toss out those who don't give sexual assault the attention it deserves. We need more Gillenbrands, McCaskills and Murrays in office and less who kowtow to the old ways. I love the Australian using the words, 'brothers and sisters.' We have a long way to go to respecting those who try to move this country forward.
Obama: 'No tolerance' for military sexual assault
By Michael O'Brien, Political Reporter, NBC News
News Conference, East Room, White House, May 7, 2013.
...The president said he had spoken today with Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel to urge him to exponentially step up efforts to identify suspects in assaults, and aggressively prosecute those cases.
The bottom line is: I have no tolerance for this, Obama said at a press conference following his meeting with South Korean President Park Geun-hye.
I expect consequences, Obama added. So I dont just want more speeches or awareness programs or training, but ultimately folks look the other way. If we find out somebodys engaging in this, theyve got to be held accountable prosecuted, stripped of their positions, court martialed, fired, dishonorably discharged. Period.
For those who are in uniform whove experience sexual assault, I want them to hear directly from their commander in chief that Ive got their backs, the president said. I will support them. And were not going to tolerate this stuff, and there will be accountability...
http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/05/07/18107743-obama-no-tolerance-for-military-sexual-assault?lite
Our President speaks powerfully, but it's not news...
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Chief of Staff of the Australian Army is not kidding around when it comes to sexual harassment [View all]
DonViejo
Jun 2013
OP
now WHY hasn't our own military said exactly this, AND MEANT IT?? and why do we have the
niyad
Jun 2013
#5
He gets 'serious props,' while Obama says same but it's called 'unlawful' per OP last night:
freshwest
Jun 2013
#9
Wow. That is astonishing. The only thing that makes sense is because Obama's not in uniform, maybe?
Number23
Jun 2013
#10
Some people misread the name 'Obama' as 'Obstruct!' Tea Party spelling strikes again.
freshwest
Jun 2013
#13