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gtar100

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46. I'm with you on that. But we wouldn't have these issues

Mon Aug 5, 2013, 04:16 PM

Aug 2013

if the agencies actually took their roles seriously and stopped using them for excuses to take advantage of people for power and money. Of course, if American corporations didn't go around the world exploiting people and resources for their own personal gain at the cost of great suffering, there probably wouldn't be much of a threat of terrorism to begin with. But where is the profit in that! These people would have to resort to making an honest living and solving real problems.

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I'm Sorry... But I Am MUCH MORE Afraid Of An Out Of Control Surveillance/Police State... [View all] WillyT Aug 2013 OP

The lawlessness is getting so blurry that the two seem to be merging, and no one seems accountable. midnight Aug 2013 #1

I think there are too many balls in the air to juggle. Baitball Blogger Aug 2013 #18

Well that would explain why they didn't try to bust Wall Street. The snooping sure matthews Aug 2013 #50

We definitely are experiencing a complete collapse in our society. Baitball Blogger Aug 2013 #54

I'm with you guys...unfortunately I p****d a lot of people off here. Glad to see see kindred souls. silvershadow Aug 2013 #89

Seem to be merging? RC Aug 2013 #55

I'm more afraid of going broke, dying from my disease, e coli, bears, paper cuts... NightWatcher Aug 2013 #2

Stephen Colbert don''t trust those bears either.... think Aug 2013 #4

paper cuts darkangel218 Aug 2013 #8

You can trust NSA employees to do the right thing just as much as these employees: AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #37

+1 villager Aug 2013 #77

"without casualty or issues" Brewinblue Aug 2013 #58

LOL, yep paranoia is what we have now, I'm guessing there are a lot of people........ 4bucksagallon Aug 2013 #69

If you got nothing to hide, you got nothing to fear!!! bvar22 Aug 2013 #102

The FISA court has all judges appointed by Chief Justice John Reports. Eric J in MN Aug 2013 #97

Without casualty or issue? lark Aug 2013 #104

But...what about the terrorists? NuclearDem Aug 2013 #3

yeah Bully Taw Aug 2013 #44

That makes sense. We needed someone to scare the boogeyman. eom Blanks Aug 2013 #70

SNORT!!! Fawke Em Aug 2013 #101

Me, too! FiveGoodMen Aug 2013 #5

No worries. Hillary will reverse all of those things you're worried about. Dawgs Aug 2013 #6

Something to look forward to. Of course, if she doesn't, Jeb Bush will. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #33

I'm not afraid of terrorists, either, personally. MineralMan Aug 2013 #7

I hesitate to say this, but dickthegrouch Aug 2013 #30

Well, it's far more likely that you'll be in the vicinity of some MineralMan Aug 2013 #32

To say nothing of car or bicycle crashes which are far more common and can cause severe JDPriestly Aug 2013 #45

Yes, of course. Those are even more likely. MineralMan Aug 2013 #47

A friend's daughter was killed on 9/11. She is more afraid of our government than she sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #86

A friend of mine died on 9/11. MineralMan Aug 2013 #94

I fear what all Democracies need to fear, the removal of the rights that were so hard-fought for sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #106

I'm not afraid of either treestar Aug 2013 #9

BINGO!!! nt kelliekat44 Aug 2013 #10

amen uponit7771 Aug 2013 #62

LOL. Your argument is that the 1% doesnt need to spy, therefore they arent spying. rhett o rick Aug 2013 #76

The 1% don't need the government for that treestar Aug 2013 #99

I recommend that you read the link. rhett o rick Aug 2013 #105

You can't be a terrorist without doing a terrorist action. Tikki Aug 2013 #11

I"m not really afraid of either. KittyWampus Aug 2013 #12

Ahhh the bliss. nm rhett o rick Aug 2013 #78

I notice that you and your friends dont like to jump into real issues. Here is a post that rhett o rick Aug 2013 #82

Dear Rhett, if you were to search DU v.1 and DU v.2 you'd find plenty of my posts on this issue. KittyWampus Aug 2013 #83

Wait, you have a life outside of DU!?! iamthebandfanman Aug 2013 #91

This wasnt aimed at you. I know you discuss issues. rhett o rick Aug 2013 #96

Oh, and if you are concerned about water rights being bought up, research T. Boone Pickens KittyWampus Aug 2013 #85

That's all swell but didnt answer my question. I am guessing that these very outspoken rhett o rick Aug 2013 #95

But High level AlQaeda operatives are in place!! Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #13

And once a terrorist survives to be #1, they are invincible. With super human powers. RC Aug 2013 #57

Fear sells! n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #14

Yes it does Andy823 Aug 2013 #93

"NSA handing over non-terror intelligence" Dawson Leery Aug 2013 #15

As my younger siblings says malaise Aug 2013 #16

I'm more afraid of The Carlyle Group & The Company they keep.... think Aug 2013 #17

But, but...WillyT! You need to watch this! Zorra Aug 2013 #19

This is all any prosecutor has to recite to have anyone charged with anything they want-Mission midnight Aug 2013 #64

I think we're one mass casualty event away from the kind of Police State we all fear.... Junkdrawer Aug 2013 #20

if you got a sufficiently charismatic leader who can delay and mute any reaction, MisterP Aug 2013 #38

My understanding is that many, including Kerry, wanted a no fly zone, Obama didn't.... Junkdrawer Aug 2013 #40

Especially when you have police like this AZ Progressive Aug 2013 #21

The officer seems nice. Enthusiast Aug 2013 #61

Awful. nt snappyturtle Aug 2013 #81

I hear ya! dmr Aug 2013 #22

THE WHOLE “TERRORIST” MEME IS A NEO-FASCIST COUP D’ETAT 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #23

Politics is just the ruse Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #28

Don't forget the mid 70's movie "Network" 90-percent Aug 2013 #36

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Aug 2013 #24

Well There Is THAT... WillyT Aug 2013 #26

Yup.... think Aug 2013 #29

That's OK. I forgive you. You probably can't help it. nt Dreamer Tatum Aug 2013 #25

They're just rolling all this stuff out GiaGiovanni Aug 2013 #27

What would you do when the threats to the government escalate from the radical right? SleeplessinSoCal Aug 2013 #31

Why are you afraid of anything? frazzled Aug 2013 #34

Your fears are well grounded 90-percent Aug 2013 #35

So am I. City Lights Aug 2013 #39

You know it's all fucked up when this is the cover of the Economist Catherina Aug 2013 #41

If ever there was a marker... n/t Hydra Aug 2013 #74

du rec. xchrom Aug 2013 #42

Me Also. Hubert Flottz Aug 2013 #43

I'm with you on that. But we wouldn't have these issues gtar100 Aug 2013 #46

They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty Tab Aug 2013 #48

The loss of our rights and our privacy mean that they won. We sure didn't win matthews Aug 2013 #49

Ya know, I'm not really afraid of either. Drunken Irishman Aug 2013 #51

They've just got too much money. Defunding them is the start. toby jo Aug 2013 #52

I'm not afraid of either one, just dissapointed in the Federal government. Rex Aug 2013 #53

i'm not afraid of either of them JI7 Aug 2013 #56

I'm with ya on that! k&r Little Star Aug 2013 #59

What state do you live in? City? Town? JaneyVee Aug 2013 #60

What Does That Have To Do With The Violations Of The Bill Of Rights ? WillyT Aug 2013 #63

Another of the blissful speaks out in defense of the big daddy authoritarian state. rhett o rick Aug 2013 #80

I Guess This Line of Inquiry is Okay As Long As You Don't Hate America..... BlueManFan Aug 2013 #65

Gotta agree. I fear the Teabillies, the Teapublicans, survivalists "militias" almost as much. marble falls Aug 2013 #66

half agree. I am not really afraid at all of the "surveillance state" uhnope Aug 2013 #67

They are part of the same monster. bvar22 Aug 2013 #103

Me too. MotherPetrie Aug 2013 #68

Me, too, WillyT. Blue_In_AK Aug 2013 #71

"Terrorists" are the boogyman of the day. 99Forever Aug 2013 #72

today's terrorists = cold war communists = turn of the century anarchists. gotta have an HiPointDem Aug 2013 #84

The enemy is calling... From INSIDE the house! Blue Owl Aug 2013 #73

Yep libodem Aug 2013 #75

Amen.... daleanime Aug 2013 #79

The terr'ists are in DC? blkmusclmachine Aug 2013 #87

So you're going to hobble law enforcement when they try to keep us safe from pot smokers? Warren DeMontague Aug 2013 #88

No doubt. blackspade Aug 2013 #90

I'm guessing the employees EC Aug 2013 #92

The Orwellian Dystopia they've been assembling for us since 9/11 is the true terror whatchamacallit Aug 2013 #98

Me, too. Fawke Em Aug 2013 #100