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Revanchist

(1,375 posts)
1. One could argue the point
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 04:34 AM
Oct 2013

that Columbus "discovered" the existence of the American continents in the sense that the majority of the European countries were unaware of their existence and it hadn't been visited by the Norse cultures for around a hundred years so they might of forgotten about it also. Then again, an argument could be made that Columbus accidentally stumbled into the region while attempting to find an easier trade route to Asia and it was just dumb luck.

Edit:

I guess I relate it to the "discovery" of a new plant or animal species, just because a large part of the population didn't know about it before does not mean it did not exist prior to it being found and there were probably indigenous people who knew about it, but it's called a discovery because it is newly introduced to a large portion of the population. Because we (as in America and Europe) tend to base history around what is important to white Europeans I can understand why they claim that Columbus discovered America, even if it is not entirely the truth.

One could argue the point Revanchist Oct 2013 #1
I Think It's Insulting to the Indigenous Peoples to say "Discovered" the way it's said now. dballance Oct 2013 #2
But you can't limit that philosophy to just the Americas Revanchist Oct 2013 #3
It's an artifact of eurocentric history Scootaloo Oct 2013 #5
Isn't it time we (US) dropped the Eurocentric mindset after all these centuries? eShirl Oct 2013 #7
Next you'll claim that Coronado didn't discover the Grand Canyon JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 2013 #4
Coronado did not visit the Grand Canyon. He went to Zuni and turned east to the Rio Grande pueblos. Coyotl Oct 2013 #12
He took a left at Albuquerque itsrobert Oct 2013 #29
He went straight at Albuquerque, Coyotl Oct 2013 #31
why is it even still a holiday? ffs eShirl Oct 2013 #6
Columbus got taken back to Spain in chains... backscatter712 Oct 2013 #8
he reported back to the dominant civilization on the planet the existence of another continent CBGLuthier Oct 2013 #9
Spain was anything but the dominant civilization on the planet. Spain was totally uncivil. Coyotl Oct 2013 #13
He discovered something unknown to a major center of civilization and learning krispos42 Oct 2013 #10
What Columbus "discovered" was ALREADY a major center of civilization and learning. dballance Oct 2013 #15
Wha....?! Really?!?! Richardo Oct 2013 #11
Exactly. Asians "discovered" North America thousands of years before Columbus and pampango Oct 2013 #14
So immigants have been intruding into European land for millennia? Figures! Orrex Oct 2013 #17
Damn immigrants. They've been intruding on "our" land since before "we" even discovered it. pampango Oct 2013 #18
No job is done until the paperwork is complete. FarCenter Oct 2013 #16
Believe me, as a Daughter of the LAKOTA the lies never get past my Elementary School grandchildren.. Tikki Oct 2013 #19
One good thing is we can actually have this discussion now. dballance Oct 2013 #23
Maybe it's because we live in a Liberal Blue Coast State, but none of our sons' teachers.. Tikki Oct 2013 #25
Yeh, time to stop perpetuating this lie, and stop celebrating the start of the systematic genocide Zorra Oct 2013 #20
My prediction is that we will find evidence of waves of immigrants to the Americas Taverner Oct 2013 #21
Yep, you're likely correct. dballance Oct 2013 #24
And the polynesians REALLY had perfected sea travel Taverner Oct 2013 #27
Don't forget the anachronites cvoogt Oct 2013 #30
He was just a worthless rat then. Ya, ok. n/t miyazaki Oct 2013 #22
Well, yep. A self-centered, profiteer with no empathy for other humans. So Yes. dballance Oct 2013 #26
History gave him more than his due, that's all... Tikki Oct 2013 #28
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