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JNelson6563

(28,151 posts)
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 11:53 AM Oct 2013

A northerner's view of the south. [View all]

I am not one to start a thread on something there are many threads about.

There are many of these south-related right now and they get quite long and I don't get to spend much time on DU so I wanted to throw this out there: As a northerner from a kind of blue state I think I can actually relate to our southern friends who have to put up with all manner of teabilly nonsense where they live.

While Michigan (my state) goes blue for the WH and Senate it's blood red at all levels of state government and, of course, our Cong districts have been gerrymandered into all manner of contortions so our House delegation is by no means solid blue.

In my view we should all be as encouraging as possible to our southern friends & allies. It's hard enough to be somewhat alone in your views within your own community and can be discouraging. I live in a very red zone of this essentially purple state and it's frustrating as hell.

There are total teabilly assholes in every single state of our nation. Here in a pretty northern end of the mitten I see my share of confederate flags on pick-up trucks and elsewhere. I have been very deeply involved in politics and can tell you that no matter what, a Dem winning in this region is nearly impossible and virtually (so far) from state level on up.

Sure, maybe some regions of the country are unfortunate enough to have a larger percentage of the population that are members of Faux News nation and the like but the fact remains we all have them in our states.

Obviously the answer is not to stifle discussion but we are no better off if any mention of activity in the south spawns half a dozen OPs taking great offense at all the "bashing". Sadly this happens because, even if a south-related OP simply reports facts of some event we all know someone will chime in with some general statement about "the south". People who try hard to affect progressive change in that area can only feel discouraged and disregarded for their efforts at reading such things.

I think we should try to be less general in our choice of terms, that might help. Let's acknowledge the bullshit is from the RWNJs in this state or that.

Now that Michigan seems to have recently gone fascist we could easily be considered a red-state full of enough stupid people to elect the likes of Snyder to Gov and Bill Shuette to AG with GOP held House & Senate. Racism is rampant as is clearly seen in the plight of Detroit and other metro areas.

We need to be cognizant of those who fight the good fight as the under-dog in their communities when it comes to politics. It's damn hard to keep going much less keep others involved AND try to grow your membership in such territory and those who do so deserve much recognition and praise.

And on-going encouragement as well as any other help we can give them such as supporting some of their up-against-entrenched-Rethug state House race or whatever. Phone banking can be done from anywhere and making campaign donations is very simple to do in several forms.

We can create positive energy and end the divisiveness here and possibly start a progressive trend. I would love to see updates on progressive candidates in southern districts during the upcoming mid-terms. Hopefully they can draw some national attention and possible other benefits.

I hope we can start focusing more on our commonalities soon so that we can become successful at achieving our shared goals sooner.

Sorry for rambling...

Julie--who thinks unity is the only way we'll get anywhere

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A northerner's view of the south. [View all] JNelson6563 Oct 2013 OP
Thank you Julie...that's an incredible post. Much appreciated.. KoKo Oct 2013 #1
This Cheesehead sees the same things as Julie. Scuba Oct 2013 #2
Born and raised in AL... TroglodyteScholar Oct 2013 #3
We have to give the Tea Party credit where credit is due - hedgehog Oct 2013 #4
This nails it!--don't blame the South, per se..... lastlib Oct 2013 #23
Responsible voting is the answer. Chipper Chat Oct 2013 #5
+1 Jamaal510 Oct 2013 #15
Great words, let the bridges be built..... Rebellious Republican Oct 2013 #6
Julie, you are a Voice of Reason ... Martin Eden Oct 2013 #7
My hat is off to you kind lady. JimboBillyBubbaBob Oct 2013 #8
It's everywhere... pipi_k Oct 2013 #9
You would be surprised by how many rednecks live in Oregon N/T Dpm12 Oct 2013 #10
You would be surprised by the number of rednecks in Oregon NT Dpm12 Oct 2013 #11
Here's a map showing concentrations of tea party-type voters: surprise! They're all over. 7962 Oct 2013 #12
Like roaches. nt awoke_in_2003 Oct 2013 #48
thank you. Julie Chaco Dundee Oct 2013 #13
Thank you for providing a great message. TexasTowelie Oct 2013 #14
Agreed. 99Forever Oct 2013 #16
I predict she wont run in 2014. Chipper Chat Oct 2013 #33
Ms Teabagger has already... 99Forever Oct 2013 #37
Good riddance. Chipper Chat Oct 2013 #39
She has her congressional pension sewed up... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2013 #49
Nothing wrong with the south MyNameGoesHere Oct 2013 #17
This Michigander agrees, and is appalled at the state's Tea Party takeover Faygo Kid Oct 2013 #18
This Southern Progressive thanks you! MynameisBlarney Oct 2013 #19
K&R stonecutter357 Oct 2013 #20
I grew up in the heart of Liberal America - the People's Republic of Boulder, gtar100 Oct 2013 #21
''Julie--who thinks unity is the only way we'll get anywhere'' DeSwiss Oct 2013 #22
Your generosity. Many in the south love their civil war stance still. SleeplessinSoCal Oct 2013 #24
Thank you for the words of blue14u Oct 2013 #25
Born and raised in South Carolina and living there now stage left Oct 2013 #26
Welcome to DU... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2013 #51
that was really well written.. stillcool Oct 2013 #27
re:A northerner's view of the south. allan01 Oct 2013 #28
I am a proud southern progressive. dotymed Oct 2013 #29
I was in Michigan when Detroit elected Colman Young.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #30
The laws for redistricting and the electoral college MUST change. They are causing the collapse of judesedit Oct 2013 #31
Northerner from michigan pamdb Oct 2013 #32
Very well said, my friend skepticscott Oct 2013 #34
You can sit on my porch any time. nolabear Oct 2013 #35
I love Julie--who thinks unity is the only way we'll get anywhere TexasProgresive Oct 2013 #36
+1! Ramble on! It is discouraging on many levels. Dustlawyer Oct 2013 #38
Wow, thank you responders! JNelson6563 Oct 2013 #40
Mahalo, ,Julie.. Brilliant observation, Cha Oct 2013 #41
From another Michigander, Bravo! nt MrScorpio Oct 2013 #42
We are allies. We are one nation. ananda Oct 2013 #43
I live in the Pacific Northwest, LWolf Oct 2013 #44
Thank you very much for this, Julie. cordelia Oct 2013 #45
It's like you read a chapter out of my life in NC, love it! SaveAmerica Oct 2013 #46
I live in Oklahoma Rain Mcloud Oct 2013 #47
I'll add that a welcoming inclusiveness is the only way to bring in disaffected redsters. ancianita Oct 2013 #50
Thanks, Julie. StrayKat Oct 2013 #52
Also, StrayKat Oct 2013 #54
Right on the money Julie! erinlough Oct 2013 #53
Thanks so much. A much-needed post. Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #55
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