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Octafish

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25. Bertrand Russell got inspired by Mark Lane...
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:21 PM
Dec 2013

Going from memory: Russell read stuff Lane wrote and invited him to be his guest in the UK. While there, at Russell's home, people like Paul McCartney would come over to learn what wasn't being printed in the UK newspapers.

Russell later started "Who Killed Kennedy? Committee" in the UK. Lane started similar organization in the US, the Citizen's Committee of Inquiry.

Here's an article that served to wake up a lot of people, including the members of the Warren Commission discussed in executive session. IMFO, it's something worth bookmarking or downloading, going by the little that sees the light of day 50 years on:



Seeds of Doubt: Some Questions About the Assassination

by Jack Minnis and Staughton Lynd
The New Republic
21 December 1963, pp. 14-20

http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/SeedsOfDoubt.html



Regarding the Motorcade Route:

Jim Garrison said it was Mayor Earl Cabbel who changed the motorcade route...



Here's what passed for "security" on Nov. 22, 1963, not that every person on that bus could pose a threat.

At Duquesne, Mr. Robert Groden showed a still from the following video. I asked him about its provenance and he said the Dallas ABC affiliate had aired it. Why no one with any power in the nation's news media paid much attention shows how little reporting has been done on the assassination of President Kennedy. From DU:

A Dallas tee vee station recorded JFK leaving Love Field on Nov. 22, 1963...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1883636

...it was never shown on national broadcast, for some reason. In the tape, Secret Service Agent Donald Lawton holds up his arms thrice in the classic "What the heck?" gesture. The video indicates SS agent Emory P. Roberts stood up in his car to order Lawton* off the presidential limousine's back bumper, leaving the president unprotected from behind. President Kennedy was murdered a few minutes later.

Video: http://www.metacafe.com/watch/171830/secret_service_jfk /



From Vince Palamara:

An important discovery was made by this correspondent during review of video of the Dallas trip shot by the ABC television affiliate in that city. During the start of the fatal motorcade at Love Field, Secret Service agent Don Lawton begins to jog alongside the presidential limousine. He is immediately called back by his shift leader and commander of the follow-up car detail, Emory P. Roberts.

Lawton's dismay and confusion is made manifest by his unambiguous body language: He throws up his arms several times before, during and after the follow-up car passes him. He was not being allowed to do his job -- and it was not JFK who was ordering the stand-down.

Despite the discovery by this correspondent of three reports to the contrary (two by Roberts) written on November 22, 1963, this newly discovered photographic evidence confirms that frustrated and vocal-in-his-objections Rybka did not enter the follow-up car and was left behind at the airport.

Afterward, in William Manchester's book, Death of a President, we see the "official story" of what happened:

"Kennedy grew weary of seeing bodyguards roosting behind him every time he turned around, and in Tampa on November 18 (1963), just four days before his death, he dryly asked Agent Floyd Boring to 'keep those Ivy League charlatans off the back of the car.' Boring wasn't offended. There had been no animosity in the remark." (1988 Harper & Row/Perennial Library edition, pp. 37-38)

The thing is PRESIDENT KENNEDY NEVER SAID THAT.

SOURCE:

Agents Go On Record

* Previously, the agent in the photo was incorrectly identified as Henry J. Rybka. According to records, he also was ordered to stay off the car and remain at Love Field. Much "chatter" arose over the misidentification.

Thank you for reading and sharing your insight, Mc Mike. I very much appreciate it.
No one wants to question the Full Spectrum Dominance of The Fourth Estate here, or so it seems. n/t bobthedrummer Dec 2013 #1
The BFEE Octopus - - Spanning the Globe Since November 22, 1963. Octafish Dec 2013 #4
Mark Lane recently revisited the 5.6 seconds that the Secret Service had to react KurtNYC Dec 2013 #2
''Mr. Bolden. I see you made it here.'' Octafish Dec 2013 #6
Speaking of Abraham Bolden and the Secret Service MinM Dec 2013 #9
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Then there are the nice people who just happen to show up without a ticket... Octafish Dec 2013 #12
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Holy hell--The bogus Mandela signer allegedly helped burn men to death: MinM Dec 2013 #22
Necklacing! Octafish Dec 2013 #23
Incredible! Octafish Dec 2013 #11
I wonder if DiEugenio or someone at CTKA will review Swanson's book. robertpaulsen Dec 2013 #3
Poor Swanson wouldn't know what hit him. And he's chums with Ed Meese. Octafish Dec 2013 #7
Now I understand the whole thing. Waiting For Everyman Dec 2013 #5
They're trying to put an ''End of Days'' on liberal ideas and the New Deal... Octafish Dec 2013 #8
Rather's description of the headshot was a baldface lie deutsey Dec 2013 #13
Dan Rather reports... Octafish Dec 2013 #14
You posted a couple of informative sub-threads in your o.p. s Mc Mike Dec 2013 #20
Great memory, yours, Mc Mike! Octafish Dec 2013 #21
Thanks for the Lord Russell link. Mc Mike Dec 2013 #24
Bertrand Russell got inspired by Mark Lane... Octafish Dec 2013 #25
Your post # 460, last Jan 22 (in your o.p. of Jan 15), had info on an alternate route. Mc Mike Dec 2013 #26
I think Lenny Bruce was right about what happened with Jackie there. Nt. Mc Mike Dec 2013 #27
5:30 pm news time-kick n/t bobthedrummer Dec 2013 #15
''...government coming out of manhole covers...'' Octafish Dec 2013 #16
Yawn... Archae Dec 2013 #18
You compare discussing the assassination of President Kennedy to beating a dead horse? Octafish Dec 2013 #19
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