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jeff47

(26,549 posts)
33. If your argument involves "cognitive dissonance"
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 07:26 PM
Sep 2014

you can stop for a moment and realize you're just spewing bullshit.

See, you're claiming that the statistically significant group is African-American boys. Guess where they still use the thermiosol-laced MMR vaccine? Africa. It doesn't require refrigeration. Guess where they virtually zero diagnosed cases of autism? Africa. Yet you're claiming African genetic stock is gonna prove you right about MMR.

The criteria for autism has radically changed over the last 20 years, and you're utterly ignoring that so you can pretend there's a conspiracy. Now, if your conspiracy only hurt as much as doomsday prepers, I wouldn't care.

But you're killing children by destroying herd immunity.

Tilt your head back and inhale. You have now been exposed to 10x more disease-causing organisms than a child gets exposed to by vaccines. And the vaccine ones are dead or weakened, unlike the ones you just inhaled. And no, I don't care how clean your house is. You'll hit that 10x number anywhere that isn't a clean room.

"Evil" chemicals in the vaccines? Guess what? They've changed repeatedly over the last 20 years. Yet the rate of autism diagnoses didn't suddenly go up or down after those changes. Almost like chemicals in the vaccines aren't the cause.

Wakefield lied because he wanted to become very rich from his vaccine. That started the ball rolling, and now we're killing toddlers for his cause.

Also, have you read the latest about the other MMR whistleblower case involving a pair of Merck virologists? A new court ruling was issued just last week.

Did you read about the case where Charlie Chaplin was declared a girl's father despite having incompatible blood types? Baby type B, woman type A, Chaplin type O*. Court declared him the father anyway despite it being impossible for the baby to be his.

Courts know about law. They know jack shit about science.

*If you care at all about the genetics, Chaplin was OO - he had two copies of the 'O' gene. That's the only way you end up with a type-O person.

The woman was AO - one 'A' gene and one 'O' gene. She gave the O to her daughter, because her daughter didn't express type A.

Yet the baby expressed a type B gene. She had to have received that B from her father, since her mother didn't have one. Chaplin could have only given her an O gene, because that's all he had.

The baby's real father was either AB, BB or BO. Yet courts decided Chaplin was the father anyway.
This article fails to mention that people who are vaccinated can still get the disease, and can also DesertDiamond Sep 2014 #1
Thank you for that! nt kelliekat44 Sep 2014 #3
You fail to take into account that this has always been a (very small) risk baldguy Sep 2014 #5
+1000 sybylla Sep 2014 #10
The following graphic makes clear how current official recommended schedules are varied by country. proverbialwisdom Sep 2014 #16
People in the USA are waking up to the idea that vaccinating babies under the age of one truedelphi Sep 2014 #29
The following graphic makes clear how the US schedule has changed since the 1980's. proverbialwisdom Sep 2014 #17
Update. proverbialwisdom Sep 2014 #22
Watch them all, please. It's clear there's a public health issue here, but not the one you describe. proverbialwisdom Sep 2014 #19
Thank you for these videos. truedelphi Sep 2014 #30
thank you Ms. McCarthy Skittles Sep 2014 #11
uhhhh...because it is the fault of anti-vax nut jobs. Strat54 Sep 2014 #14
That's exactly right. Mariana Sep 2014 #24
Google herd immunity and you'll discover why that's a bad reason to stop vaccinating. (nt) jeff47 Sep 2014 #25
I just want to understand vaccination a little better. kelliekat44 Sep 2014 #2
But you're not dead, are you? baldguy Sep 2014 #6
Every disease is deadly to some extent. laundry_queen Sep 2014 #15
I don't know. I never "broke-out" with measles of any sort, even though my japple Sep 2014 #7
There was no vaccine for measles or chicken pox then (IDK about the others) Gormy Cuss Sep 2014 #13
Year each vaccine was developed csziggy Sep 2014 #18
The vaccines available at that time were: diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis (DTP) and smallpox REP Sep 2014 #36
Just maybe the diseases developed immunity or resistence to our current vaccinations or kelliekat44 Sep 2014 #4
If that were the case, the disease rate would be the same among jeff47 Sep 2014 #35
When I grew up in California (70's), vaccination was pretty universal bhikkhu Sep 2014 #8
Chickenpox vaccine wasn't available in the US until 1995. jeff47 Sep 2014 #34
True, but by not vaccinating, if you become infected, you become a vector. littlemissmartypants Sep 2014 #9
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2014 #12
We were very glad to take our polio shots in the fifties as we had kids crippled by it. freshwest Sep 2014 #20
Re: Flu jeff47 Sep 2014 #27
du rec. xchrom Sep 2014 #21
So are both stories correct? Does vaccination also increase autism rates? Trillo Sep 2014 #23
Nope. There is zero evidence of vaccinations increasing autism rates. jeff47 Sep 2014 #26
Here's some important reading to start with. Sorry about any cognitive dissonance it may cause. proverbialwisdom Sep 2014 #32
If your argument involves "cognitive dissonance" jeff47 Sep 2014 #33
The “Hear This Well: Breaking the Silence..." YouTube Channel testimonials prove otherwise. proverbialwisdom Sep 2014 #39
Ooooo. Youtube. That's where I go for the best science!! jeff47 Sep 2014 #40
An informative read for you with a very cogent & well-supported argument, plus #hearthiswell video. proverbialwisdom Sep 2014 #41
Continuing to spew bullshit doesn't make it true. jeff47 Sep 2014 #42
That's a fearmongering talking point and nothing else. Please review the table in post #16 (above). proverbialwisdom Sep 2014 #43
Yes, zero evidence. Just a whole bunch of bullshit. REP Sep 2014 #37
Autism begins in the womb bhikkhu Sep 2014 #38
k&r Liberal_in_LA Sep 2014 #28
DU rec... SidDithers Sep 2014 #31
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